Today, I had to remove a current production Firestone tire. I've been doing this all of my adult life, but I've never timed myself. It took me 6 minutes. This is after I let the air out, and broke the tire from the rim. Then, I had a beer!
How many seconds to have a beer?
My first one was a wards Riverside and took me an hour.
A friend and I replaced 2 30x3's front tires. Had a hell of a time removing the old Firestone non skids. Ended up cutting them off with a hack saw. They were on the car for 30 yrs.
I have a wonderful old bead breaker tool which makes removal dead easy. But it took me several days to get a set of new Wards on! Boy those were tight.
This guy is in our club and he knows how to install the tires.
Langs has some tire tools in his catalogue which John has. He wraps them with duct tape to protect the wheels from scratches and dish soap to make them slide easier.
I had a set of old tires on a couple of rims that I wanted to replace. The tires were weather checked and well-worn, so I thought this would be easy. I tried using C Clamps to break the bead, and I about broke my C Clamps trying to squeeze the tire. After cussing for awhile and wondering how to get this stiff piece of junk tire off, I looked at the valve stem. I never bothered taking the valve core out. Turns out the tube still held air! I looked over the tube and it's still in very nice shape. After I got the tire and tube off the rim, which was easy once the air was out, I put the valve back together and put some air in the tube. It's still holding air, hidden in a dark corner of the shed in case I need a spare.
I had to replace a tube in tire that was 50 years old.
I struggled for two days until I learned about the sun and a plastic bag.
Once I knew the tricks it took about 5 minutes to put the tire on the rim.
I have 4 new tires and am waiting for a really hot day to put them on the wheels.
The old tubes hold air better than the new tube, so I'm thinking of reusing the old ones.
Fred, please tutor this newbie... just how does the sun and a plastic bag work?
Fred - That's one I've not heard of either. Please enlighten us? When I took off the old original factory 10 ply 30X3 1/2's from the TT, I still ended up with needing to cut out a piece of the tire to get it off! (Yes, I'd left out the air and removed flap an tube first.....) New tires went on easy.
I thought the trash bag deal was for installing tires:
Mark - Guess I've been too sheltered since I'd not heard of that, either. Dad's TT had 2-piece rims/rings (20" tires called 30X 3 1/2) for the rear, and then 21" 1-piece 'split rims' front in my experience. Same 21" with Cranky! Maybe, I just need to be more observant?
New tires are pretty easy. Original Wards beat me to a pulp.
A nice 'split rim spreader' idea from 2012:
I did 8 last year; 8 off and 8 on (flaps and rim liners) Four with split rims and 4 drop center. First split rim drove me insane. Also never thought I would get the rim straightened again!! I bought a tool (spreader) and although it helped, it was still a chore. There must be different spreader tools out there, as this one did not work the best. Baby powder or talcum worked better than soap as it was not as messy (and I smelled like a clean baby’s butt). The whole process made me say naughty words and drink many beers.
I tried the plastic bag trick, now I need to pull tire because there is no way to get all of the bag out and I can see it all the way around. The best for me was warm tire soapy water, lay rim and tire on blanket and pull rim up into tire by hand. Royce has a great method as well. He uses weight of car with rim still mounted on car.
I suspect the trash bag trick and hot day is: put the tire in the plastic bag in the sun. When it is good and warm, mount the tire on the rim.
Taking the tire off is not the problem.
Getting it back on is what is hard.
The plastic bag made putting an old tire back on the rim easy.
I saw the plastic bag method on YouTube.
The sun was used to get things warm.
The bag does not belong in the sun.
It makes the surface of the rim smooth and can be a bit of a hassle to remove, but it was the only way I could get the old tire back on the rim.
Use a heavier bag!
Mark lists the YouTube video.
The first time I changed a tire on the 12 it took an hour , now I know what I'm doing I can rotate all four in an hour or less. I use a little dish soap on the rim and the tires slip on very well. Cheers Colin
I wonder about getting the plastic bag out too! There is enough of a problem just mounting the tires. I use two TT Ford tire irons, and a large rubber mallet, and the heal of my shoe. That's all.
Just laying the tires out in the sun to warm up and get soft really does help.
BTW, it took me ten minutes to install the same tire on another wheel. It took me 10 minutes. The weather was warm, so that helped. Can't imagine a plastic bag! What a waste of time! A great big rubber mallet is all you need.