"Calling All Cars": Detroit Police Needs a Model T

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: "Calling All Cars": Detroit Police Needs a Model T
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem - SE Michigan on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 01:08 pm:

The message below should explain it all. If you have such a car you would like to sell please PM me. (Yes, I'll put it the wanted ads also)

"Hello, My name is Jeffrey Lemaux I am the curator of the Detroit Police
Museum. I don't know if you can help. I am looking to purchase a 1919-1921
model T touring car to install a reproduction of the first radio car
antenna. The car will be displayed in the lobby of the Detroit Public
Safety Building near the entrance to the museum. I am not looking for a
show car or one restored but a $5,000 to $8,000 car in decent shape.
Detroit was the first Department in the country to make a one way police
broadcast.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George John Drobnock on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 01:21 pm:

Walter Stick with a one-way police radio, 1922. The first one-way police radios were used as experiments by Detroit police and installed in the back seat of a Model T Ford police patrol car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 04:37 pm:

And when they weren't using the radio they could hang out their laundry.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will Copeland - West Melbourne Florida on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 04:44 pm:

I'll bet back then the radio took up all of the back seat


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JohnCodman on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 07:33 pm:

Jerry, Detroit is hurting badly, but I'd like to see them get their car. I'll donate $100 towards the purchase of a decent $5-$8,000 car. Someone will have to remind me of this promise, but if they do, I'll keep it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Lloid on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 07:50 pm:

Wow. That's really neat, hopefully they get the T. Tim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 08:20 am:

With the heat that radio generated they wouldn't need side curtains :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman Bolz on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 08:24 am:

Sorry Jerry. Hit this by mistake. Was trying to get to
OT- Christina is Miss July.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem - SE Michigan on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 12:11 pm:

John,

Thanks for the generous offer. I'll mention it to them!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ALAN FAIRCLOUGH from Houston, TEXAS on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 02:50 pm:

Does the car have to run?
Does the radio have to work or is it a static exhibit?
Does the radio have to run off a 6 volt battery?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George John Drobnock on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 04:47 pm:

If it is an operating replica of a radio of the 1920's possibly the filaments will be between 1.5 to 6vdc (the A battery). There will be a B+ battery of 45 to 90 volts dc, and a C+ battery of 22.5 volts.

As this was one way communications it was a transmitter to the precinct station - a transmitter only.

The transmitter if operating a 5 meters will have the same power supply. Most likely the microphone will be carbon with a 3vdc battery.

FYI see: http://web.mit.edu/comm-forum/mit8/papers/Cohen_MIT8_paper.pdf


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem - SE Michigan on Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 10:50 am:

Alan,

My guess is that the radio will not have to work, in fact it will probably be a mock-up.

Does the car have to run? I don't know, maybe not.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Marty Bufalini - Grosse Pointe, MI on Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 06:06 pm:

I remember seeing this picture when I was a kid a couple of years ago and always thought it would be cool to reproduce this car. Glad the DPD is doing it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem - SE Michigan on Friday, July 08, 2016 - 01:35 pm:

Marty,

When you were a kid... a couple of years ago????


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ALAN FAIRCLOUGH from Houston, TEXAS on Friday, July 08, 2016 - 01:50 pm:

Model T's are for kids of all ages.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Marty Bufalini - Grosse Pointe, MI on Saturday, July 09, 2016 - 08:36 am:

Alan, you are sooooo right! So there, Jerry!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George John Drobnock on Saturday, July 09, 2016 - 10:44 am:

By 1920 the use of radios was regulated by the FCC. The call letter for the Detroit Police Department was KOP. Issued March 1922, they were assigned an AM frequency of 1050. From the information available the license was two fold - Entertainment interspersed with police broadcast.


http://jeff560.tripod.com/call192x.html
http://earlyradiohistory.us/1922cons.htm
http://www.michiguide.com/am-history/
http://familyhistorybites.blogspot.com/2007/09/from-studios-of-kop-in-detroit-it s-cm.html
http://rfpd.tripod.com/id18.html
http://www.telecom-milestones.com/#!car-radio/q4b2e
http://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/first_car_radios_history_and_development_of_ear ly_car_radios.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jeffrey Lemaux on Thursday, July 14, 2016 - 12:53 pm:

Thanks for all the great info. I would like the car to run but it surely does not need to be a show car. Yes it will be a mock up. The antenna I have is a reproduction from 1967. They did a photo shoot with a Model T with the radio antenna and a new Plymouth Fury showing the advancement in radio cars. This first radio car was in fact a one way broadcast. The car would be on display in the hallway of out Headquarters building ouside of the museum. I would also like to take it once a year out to the Ferndale Emergency Vehicle Show the Friday night before the dream cruise.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jeffrey Lemaux on Friday, July 15, 2016 - 12:17 pm:

sorry about the low resolution but it would not let me upload anything higher.1967 Photo shoot with model T


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Friday, July 15, 2016 - 12:32 pm:

The Ford in the 1967 photo is a 1924 or 1925 model.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Friday, July 15, 2016 - 10:46 pm:

Who knew that there were fallout shelters below in 1924?


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