what is the best way to change non demounable tires- remove wheel from car or keep it on. this is new to me
Either way I do them both ways
Some of us have found changing the clinchers on the car enough easier than on the ground (or a work bench?) that we sometimes (maybe even often) change the tires on the wheel on the car even with demountable rims. The main convenience of demountable rims is that one can have a spare ready and do a quick change on the road without needing to actually repair the tire, or tube, or pump it up on the spot.
To each, their preference.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Look at this:
and scroll down to the fellow changing the white tires....looks easy, no?
(It's still sleeping time where Royce lives - I thought I'd "beat him to the punch).
However you do it, lay them out in the sun to warm up first. Soft tires go on a lot easier than stiff ones.
It is an ass whipping if you take the wheel off the car.
Yep, I saw Royce change a 30 X 3 tone one October With His Hands !- wheel on the car. I have NON SKIDS on 2 of my cars that'r older than me and rue the day one of them goes flat.
Because this is the first time you will be removing a tire from the rim, it may actually be of benefit to remove the wheel and take care of other maintenance items such as:
- removing any rust inside the rim with a scraper and wire brush and dressing up any rough edges with a file followed by brushing on a coat of Rustoleum brown primer or aluminum paint inside the rim. You can make this decision after removing the tire but before removing the wheel
- cleaning and re-packing the bearing if it is a front wheel
I find it's easier to change a front tire with the wheel on the car and of course, with the front end jacked up, the steering allows you to pivot the front wheels quite a bit and that's a big help when it comes to access.
Of course, the rear wheels don't steer and Model T Fords made after 1914 will have wrap-around rear fenders that restrict access quite a bit and make for a lot of opportunity to chip the paint with your tire irons. _I therefore think it's easier to change a rear tire with the wheel off the car.
There used to be all manner of wonderful bead-breaking tools available and they made short work of peeling stubborn tires off a rim, but such tools are getting hard to find nowadays.
A good replacement for these tools would be two or three jumbo-sized C-clamps. _Now, I've heard of tires so hard and stubborn that they've had to be sawn off the wheel and I've had to deal with some original Riverside tires that felt like they were from Krypton, but even their tenacious grip was methodically broken by the irresistible, mechanically-advantaged leverage of ordinary C-Clamps.
Of course, the name of the game is getting the old tire off and the new one on, but along with that comes the hope of doing so without puncturing the inner-tube or chipping a lot of paint on your wheel-rim or fender. _If, as a kid, you changed tires on your Schwinn, you're miles ahead of the game and pretty much already know the knack, because the only real difference is that instead of the wheel being attached to an inverted bicycle, it's attached to a right-side-up car. _If, on the other hand, you've never changed skinny inner-tube tires before... well, you're in for a rite of passage. _Accomplish that and you've truly become part of the Model T Ford brotherhood.
The more you use the C-clamps and a rubber hammer instead of the tire-irons, the better your chances of not puncturing the inner-tube. _Some people use flaps and swear by their protection, while others (like me) don't and it has worked out just fine. _
You will need a set of short tire irons. _Before using them, file and then sand smooth any sharp edges. _Some folks wrap the business end of the tire-irons in plastic electricians tape or duct tape, but I tried that and found the tape shredded and made a sticky mess.
Before you roll up your sleeves and get down to work, set the new tire out in the sun and give it plenty of time warm up. _That'll soften up the rubber considerably, for you'll need all the cooperation you can get. _For lubrication, some folks use Dawn or some other kind of dishwashing liquid soap, but I found that to be messy and gooky as hell and much prefer corn starch powder (not talcum powder , because breathing talc is unhealthy).
Again, if you've never changed a tire by hand before, be advised this task will require patience, stoicism and the ability to maintain consciousness at the sight of blood. _Have a close friend hide from you all your firearms, any baseball bats, steak knives and such (same as when you're installing a new printer on your computer). _Notify your local police that a Model T tire is about to be changed so they'll know in advance not to respond with a SWAT team when some neighbor reports loud sounds of fury and distress emanating from your garage. _It is also considered good form to warn away ladies, young impressionable children and the clergy.
LOL! Well, Bob C, you ARE in good form today!
And all very good advice.
Oh yeah, be careful not to BEND the rim !!!!
Bob C, I'm not positive, but I think the tool in your first photo is actually a bead "spreader", not a bead "breaker". Probably used when installing "boots" or patches on the inside of the tire. I have one of those and bought it as a bead breaker years ago. Several years ago these were discussed on here and it was determined that they are spreaders. At least, that's how I remember it. I may well be all wet however! Dave