How rare is a 1922 pumper truck?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: How rare is a 1922 pumper truck?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenny Wiseman on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 12:19 pm:

Hello everyone. I am new here, and new to the Model T life. I acquired a 22 TT fire truck. I will post some pictures as soon as I get it off of the trailer. It is in rough shape, and has been in a fire (ironically), but seems very salvageable, and mostly complete as far as the bones of the truck go. I am wondering what information you all might have on a 22 pumper truck, and if you can tell me how plentiful or rare a truck like this might be. Here is what this truck would look like in restored condition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmG72z6J-2c&index=42&list=WL

Thanks in advance for any info you might have! I look forward to getting into the forum and chatting with all of you!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 12:23 pm:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/446797.html?1400868318

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/359714.html?1367798534

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/216739.html?1307741384

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/425324.html?1392811063

https://br.pinterest.com/pin/450219293981016585/


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenny Wiseman on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 01:31 pm:

Thank you Mark! I saw a few of those, but they didn't all come up in my search! Many thanks for posting those! Its great to see all of these pictures!

Its starting to sound like the 22 isn't rare, with the exception that I don't see many pumper trucks. I have a chem tank beside the pump, but many others don't seem to have the ability to pump...

is that accurate?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tod Wirth - Richfield, WI on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 01:46 pm:

Hi Kenny and welcome,

Model T and TT fire trucks were built by a variety of manufacturers and local builders. If yours is like the one in the video you linked to, it was produced by Howe Fire Apparatus Company of Anderson Indiana. I will watch for your photos to confirm this.

On the fire truck side of this hobby, as a starting point I would recommend getting the book "Firefighting with Henry's Model T" second edition. The photos of like equipment will be helpful and it will help you to start to get in contact with other owners to swap information, etc. Here is a link to the MTFCA store as one way to pick up a copy.

http://modeltstore.myshopify.com/collections/books


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenny Wiseman on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 01:52 pm:

Tod, thank you!!! This is what I am looking for. I appreciate your help! I will get a hold of this book and do some looking and reading! Thanks again! Pictures should be up this week.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 12:26 am:

Kenny-
After you post some pictures we will try to tell you what it is.
-Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adam Doleshal on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 11:31 am:

A mid-1920's Model T fire truck in "rough shape", not running, not driving, in need of full restoration, etc. would probably be valued at less than $5k. If the pump has no hope of ever working again, has major damage or freeze damage and all the other "fire truck accessories" are gone or in very poor condition, then you might be well below $2k. If you have its complete history since new, and/or it is anything "special" or "rare", then maybe the value would be higher. But, you have to remember that the major reason a FORD was used for a fire truck in the mid 1920's is "low cost".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenny Wiseman on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 01:26 am:

Adam, thank you! This is a good place for me to start in making the decision to keep and restore, or hand off to someone that has more time.

The pump and probably box actually turn pretty freely, so the pump should be in reasonable shape. I have the numbers matching engine, in fair shape.

Value aside, I'm just as curious of the rarity of a pumper truck of this vintage. I've done some searching and haven't verified the production numbers for the Howe trucks of this year.

Thanks for the info! Keep it coming! It's great to be part of such a great community! I'm still trying to get some good pictures to share.


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