New to me 1926 Touring

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: New to me 1926 Touring
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Govoni on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 09:45 pm:

Got Some pictures of my 26 that I just bought. I've already gotten some good input from the bard so that you for that. I hope the pictures fit.
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[URL=http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/ModelAUzi/media/26%20T_zpstlkvlpeo.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh499/ModelAUzi/26%20T_zpstlkvlpeo.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[URL=http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/ModelAUzi/media/26%20T2_zpstxblyxcb.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh499/ModelAUzi/26%20T2_zpstxblyxcb.jpg[/IMG][/URL]


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Govoni on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 09:47 pm:

Sorry the board


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 10:02 pm:

Yep, looks like a '26 alright. The wood steering wheel is a nice touch.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Noonan - Norton, MA. on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 10:03 pm:

Looks like a nice solid car...Congrats. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Govoni on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 10:11 pm:

Thanks. The guy who had it before me got it in 1971. He rebuilt most of the mechanicals and then it sat. I don't think he ever drove it. It was started last summer and came with a lot of parts. I've got a lot of learning to do as well as making sure it's safe to drive.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 10:16 pm:

Here's some info that may be useful:

http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG80.html
http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG93.html
http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG79.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Govoni on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - 10:45 pm:

Thanks for the info Steve.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 01:06 am:

RATS, Photobucket is NOT dial-up friendly; was hoping to look at the pics.
Have fun Robert!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown North Central Arkansas on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 02:38 am:

Here are three of the pics photbucket would let me save ..

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 03:16 am:

Thanks Donnie, that's a right nice lookin' touring! Should be a fun car!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, mostly in Dearborn on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 06:04 am:

I like it! I'm guessing early '26.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank van Ekeren (Australia) on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 06:13 am:

Would be late 26 with head light bar.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 08:27 am:

I thought headlight bar was a 27 feature too


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Govoni on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 08:39 am:

The engine is 14327xxx and the frame is 14456xxx. I think that's Sep 26 for the engine and Nov 26 for the car. Not the original engine but at least a 26.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 08:45 am:

Both those dates are in the 1927 model year, which begins with August 1926.

http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG90.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, mostly in Dearborn on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 09:53 am:

I was referring to the features on the body. Unless two windshield stanchion holes are filled on each side, then the body appears to be early. Later bodies had a fourth drain hole.

He also has gas tank straps and not the later insulator.

I can't tell how the hip panels are retained and I can't see whether the door grommets are inserts or stamped in.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 12:08 pm:

you don't have to worry about the broken brake shoe shown in Steve's post. The 26 is an "improved model" and has different rear brakes. Looks like you are off to a good start with your car. I have a 26 Touring and a 26 Roadster. They are both fun to drive. The foot pedals are also easier to use than on the earlier ones.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Govoni on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 12:59 pm:

So what do I do before titling it. Should I show the DMV that the guy who sold it to me was wrong all these years and ask the year to be changed? Unfortunately I bet the DMV will go with the day the car was built. Even if it is wrong. I plan on keeping the car so I'm not sure that it will matter in the long run. Thanks Steve for the info.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 01:15 pm:

Nice looking car, it doesn't look like it needs much to get it back on the road.

As far as a title why stir up a hornets nest if you have a title just transfer it and enjoy the car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, mostly in Dearborn on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 02:12 pm:

Robert,
I agree with Dennis. Stay with the '26 registration. As I mentioned, I see more '26 features than I do '27 on your car.

Even though you have a headlight crossbar, you also have an NH carb that has a throttle rod passing through the block. The '27 column would have the throttle lever higher up. Wood wheels in my opinion are more correct for '26 as more '27 cars seem to have wire wheels.

As Norman indicated with his two '26 Ts, this is probably only your first T and not your last. I have three 26 Ts; they just seemed to show up for various reasons and I took them in.

In time, you will get to know your car after you research it and ask questions like the rest of us do.

I too think your steering wheel is cool. I would start looking for a larger diameter one though once you start driving the car with passengers. The 26-27 cars are heavy and you may find you need the leverage of a larger steering wheel.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Eckensviller - Thunder Bay, ON on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 03:08 pm:

I look at it like this: if it's going to be a world-bating concours-grade restoration then research the daylights out of exactly what it should be registered as. If it's going to be a neat old car to have fun with then register it as that, which appears to have already been done.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 03:54 pm:

I'm with Tim on the registration. If you were going to make it a correct car for show, you'd want to run the red tape gauntlet and register for the correct year. But if not, let sleeping bureaucrats lie. You can tell people it's a 26-27. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 04:13 pm:

It's pretty hard to determine the date of the car by the headlight bar or the wheels or the engine number. Any or all could have been changed over the years. Two parts which would have been unlikely changed would be the front door post between the door sill and the cowl. That part has a notch near the top on the 26 and is straight on the 27. The other part which was changed was the door sill plate. Aluminum or Zinc which is screwed on for the 26 and Steel which is part of the sill itself for the 27. Both those parts are part of the body and would have remained as it came from the manufacturer. Also there might be a number stamped on the right side top rail of the chassis under the front floorboard. That would have been the original engine number installed in that chassis. However, the body might have been installed on a different chassis at some time in the last 90 years.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Govoni on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 08:07 am:

Well my take is I'm going to leave it alone and call it a 26. None of my old cars are 100 point show cars. I like to keep them (as best I can) how they were delivered to the dealer. I also like to drive them and not worry about a rock chip. My plans for the car are to make it safe, run, and put an interior in it for now. Thanks for all the comments!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 08:19 am:

The frame number tells that Ford would have called it a '27 model - but it may still have been titled as a '26 since new, since it was sold and registered by the state in late 1926, and the authorities were likely only considering the calendar year back then when registering cars. So both '26 and '27 can be considered correct and authentic for the title and no need for a change - if the title has the frame number. Engines does get changed from time to time :-)


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