Probably the most honest and well written ad I have seen on ebay from a well known Model T guy from Oregon. I'm the high bidder right now - since I was first - but I know I'll never have money enough to buy it so I'm just marking my place and can always say I bid on it.
The description is worth a read even if you aren't a bidder. The history of a lot of our lives and the hobby in general summed up in a few paragraphs as well as the story of the T for sale.
I like it. I wonder what happened to the Brown #85 lamps that are in the "Before" picture? The Brown #100 lamps in the other photos are nice but nowhere near as rare or valuable.
I like It! I might just turn our 1913 speedster into a Fire Chief's car!
This is our speedster now.
Yeah, wheres all the cool accessories that are shown in the "before" picture
All Model Ts were hand built, even after the advent of the assembly line. They didn't assemble themselves nor were there robots…..
No doubt about it; red, black and brass do go very well together.
A little gold-leaf lettering would really top it off.
First of all, let me say that I don't want to step on anyone's toes. Just want to clarify some things.
The black and white photo above is of a American LaFrance Type A two tank chemical. ALF did not market this as a Chiefs Car. This particular photo is of the 1915 that went to Lynnfield MA (registration number F106) and this fire truck is still there! It is the oldest ALF/Ford know to still exist.
ALF did make a Fire Chiefs Car on the Ford T chassis but it looked like this...
This is a pre-production photo and looks a little different than the vehicles produced. They only made 8 of the Fire Chiefs Cars. ALF made about 250 of the Type A's though.
Most of the early Chiefs Cars (on any chassis) that I have seen period photos of, had a single chemical tank mounted behind the seat. Some did not but all of them had some type of fire equipment on them.
I love the look of this speedster up for auction (and the one Ed posted!)and would love to have it in my garage but as of this point, I can't find anything about it that confirms that it ever was a Fire Chiefs Car. Wish it had a confirmable history. Neat speedster with all the accessories just the same.
I guess I would call the ebay car a speedster. What I find interesting is that with the long worded description, the seller fails to mention if the car does have a correct 1912 rear end, engine, etc nor does he show photos of these parts. He doesn't even list the serial/engine number. I don't get what makes this car "a 1912 authentic firecheifs car" especially with the only documentation being "a guy in Ohio told me so" !! Still, it is a neat speedster project for someone. I like the look of the body and Hayes wire wheels are always cool.
Mmmm! a few hundred miles? then why bump a high head on it? and it's been apart at least to fit a fly wheel and starter.
he seems to use "had" in his descriptions when I would expect to see "has"?
It all depends on your definition of "authentic".
does municipality "A" with its own fire department
and a chief in charge of said department, decide that the chief should have his own car, does that not make that car officially a "fire chief" car.
I just sold a 29 "A" that started out as a
speedster, I added lettering, a siren, several extinguishers and various other fire chief related accessories and made it into A fire chiefs car. The lettering said it was, everyone who saw it, referred to it as one, and I sold it as one, so I'm calling it an authentic make believe fire Chiefs car and I'll bet the new owner is as well.
Rod (just stirring the pot)
The previous owner is a friend of mine and a well known author in the special educational field. I can tell you that he loved the car wanted to restore it but time and health was a factor. He offered it to me a few years ago but it was out of range. I hope who ever purchased it will finish it and show pictures of it as progress is made.
It sold for the $18,000 buy it now about 45 minutes ago. I didn't even get a chance to bid again!!!
Bidders: 7Bids: 10Time Ended: Aug-31-16 16:32:38 PDTDuration: 10 days
Sorry, you were outbid. This item sold for US $18,000.00
User ID Bid Amount Bid Time
e***t ( 33Feedback score is 10 to 49) Buy It Now US $18,000.00
Aug-31-16 16:32:38 PDT
d***b ( 14Feedback score is 10 to 49) US $5,000.00
Aug-31-16 12:42:33 PDT
1***j ( 1361Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) US $4,100.00
Aug-31-16 09:57:00 PDT
u***m ( 72Feedback score is 50 to 99) US $3,650.00
Aug-31-16 10:41:45 PDT
u***m ( 72Feedback score is 50 to 99) US $3,500.00
Aug-31-16 10:41:26 PDT
likeyogisays ( 1606Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) US $3,100.00
Aug-31-16 08:18:13 PDT
i***d ( 1492Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) US $3,000.00
Aug-31-16 08:11:57 PDT
likeyogisays ( 1606Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) US $3,000.00
Aug-31-16 08:18:06 PDT
d***i ( 752Feedback score is 500 to 999) US $2,500.00
Aug-31-16 08:04:25 PDT
likeyogisays ( 1606Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) US $2,000.00
Aug-31-16 06:54:12 PDT
This one seen on FL tour a few years ago seems more "Chiefy" than that $18k speedster project T just sold now on eBay.
Had a bunch more fire stuff
Dan- Thanks for posting those pictures. Now that's a fire cheif's vehicle!
Dan, Yes that is one of the ALF Fire Chiefs Cars that still exist. It is a 1915 and ALF Registration Number F112. There are some add-ons, and the decorative striping is not as it would have been but otherwise it is how ALF built their Model T Fire Chiefs Car.