Having trouble removing raditor.

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: Having trouble removing raditor.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Bourgeois,Aldergrove BC,Can. on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 01:46 pm:

Still pretty new to the T world and have a few concerns.
Want to flush the rad and fix the leaking petcock.
My main one right now is how to remove the raditor from my early 26 Tudor. Can't seem to get down between the frame to somehow wedge something in there to stop the small plate from turning.
Any suggestions from you very knowledgeable T guys would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks PaulB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 02:03 pm:

Been and done that a few times! I used a torch to heat the top nut first. Get some pieces of sheet metal to use for a heat shield when heating the nut.
If your familiar with the use of a torch you can heat the top nut without warping or messing up the surrounding area with heat. Cool off the nut.

You should be able to remove the top nut easily enough while you use something to wedge or hold the nut at the bottom.

I've used the smallest pair of vise grips before also. I've also used a flat piece of steel that would fit between the frame and the nut to hold it so I could unscrew the top nut, lift off the radiator then remove the stud, springs and nuts.

By that time a new radiator mounting set will work really well!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem - SE Michigan on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 03:05 pm:

There is no "nut" at the bottom. There's a flat plate that's too big to allow it to turn inside the frame rail. At least it SHOULD be too big...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem - SE Michigan on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 03:07 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Bourgeois,Aldergrove BC,Can. on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 03:26 pm:

Thanks John I'll give that a try. May still need something to stop the plate from turning.
In the early 26 they made a small plate,in the later part of the year they made a longer plate. I have the small one. It just turns inside the frame.
The picture Jerry sent is what I'm going to put on when I can get the old one off.
Thanks guys,PaulB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem - SE Michigan on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 04:24 pm:

Bummer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Eyssen - Abilene TX on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 06:48 pm:

Cram a big bladed screwdriver down the side of the rail to stop the turning. BTDT--Tim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn-Monroeville OH on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 07:17 pm:

Tim...that's what I do too! The "other Tim" :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brian Dowell on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 08:27 pm:

Paul, had same problem. Used an old wide blade wood chisel was able to jam it between the plate and frame. The wide blade helped as the plate ran up and down the threads of the stud. My2.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Bourgeois,Aldergrove BC,Can. on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 12:15 am:

Thanks Tim/Tim & Brian. Going to try what Brian said and use one of my old wood chisels tomorrow.
Thanks again guys,
PaulB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 09:15 am:

Paul, when you get the plate wedged in the frame, the stud may still turn with the top castle nut. This will mean the stud is winding out of the plate in the frame. When it comes up against the split pin, either the pin will shear off and the stud will continue to wind out, or the nut will break loose on the stud and wind off. Either way, you will be good to go.

Hope this helps.
Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Eyssen - Abilene TX on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 11:39 am:

You are right Allan: Something is going to come apart:-) Tim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 10:09 am:

I had a similar problem once, and as I recall, was able to get a pair of vise grips on that stud somewhere to get it apart. The problem is the vise grips kinda messes things up.


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