Checking bands

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: Checking bands
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Carey on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 10:28 am:

Is there a way to tell how much bands are worn?
This is a new car to me and the bands seem to need adjusting, the pedals all go to the floor.
It's a 1923 if that makes any diff.
thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 11:03 am:

First, pull the floorboards and transmission inspection cover and make sure that all the parts are present and in the right locations. Be careful not to drop anything inside the transmission!

Most of the band surface is hidden from view when looking through the transmission inspection cover from above.

As a first shot, tighten the bands until the low and brake bands grip firmly with the pedals about 1 to 1.5 inches above the floorbards. Tighten the reverse band enough so that the reverse pedal doesn't drop below the low and brake pedals when you press the reverse pedal firmly.

Then, pull the floorboards and transmission inspection cover and verify that the band springs don't go into "coil bind" when the pedals are firmly depressed.

The more worn the bands are, the more the band springs will be compressed.

Others may have better methods / suggestions. :-)

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Carey on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 12:58 pm:

Do you mean to have the reverse pedal above the brake and low pedals when applied, and the B and C pedals are not applied?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 01:04 pm:

That's correct! Otherwise, your feet can get tangled between the pedals when you use reverse. Some folks (like me) go even further and install the pedal extension available from the vendors to further raise the reverse pedal above the other two pedals. :-)

https://www.modeltford.com/item/3439EX.aspx


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 04:15 pm:

If you're cheap enough, you make your own wood block reverse pedal extension.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Donahue on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 04:23 pm:

A quick additional question, is there a gasket on this transmission inspection cover that needs to be replaced when removing the cover?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 04:28 pm:

Yes, there is a gasket. If your car doesn't already have one, I would recommend getting the the transmission screen with magnet that fits under the inspection cover. If you get the screen, be sure to order two gaskets, one for each side of the screen. Glue the gaskets to each side of the screen, then grease the outside surfaces of the gaskets so that they don't stick to the transmission or the inspection cover. That way you can pull the cover and screen occasionally for cleaning without ruining the gaskets.

https://www.modeltford.com/item/3378OS.aspx


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alan George Long on Friday, September 30, 2016 - 03:32 am:

I had the pleasure while holidaying interstate recently of driving a friends T for the first time. He explained that the clutch pedal was very light to push and bottoms out easy.

It turns out that he has deliberately removed the return spring from the low band and relies on centrifugal force to prevent the band dragging in high or reverse. I don't subscribe to his way of thinking but my left leg didn't ache that night!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Friday, September 30, 2016 - 10:59 am:

I have a wood band on the low drum. That makes the band so "springy" that no spring is needed to push back the pedal. Got springs for the Kevlar brake and the old stock Scandinavia reverse bands, though :-)


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