I have found the right buyer for my beloved 1919 model T speedster ... which will allow me to purchase a totally complete and solid 1923 roadster barn find.
Leaving for a ten day business trip to Taiwan on Monday and can't do anything until I get back, but I am so excited about this development. Will be picturing the work I'll need to do on that long plane ride. Been looking for an original T roadster for thirty years. As I work in a conservation lab I plan to keeping it as original (but mechanically safe) as possible as a daily driver.
So many questions about the elements that make a 23 a 23 ... but plenty of time for that.
Congrats! Can't wait to see pictures. Low radiator or high?
Low, if it's a 23. That new roadster will give you lots of fun. Looking forward to photos.
Yes, low radiator ... 30 x 3 1/2 tires, side mount spare ... original engine and drive train. A nice patina of some paint.
Cool Mark. Congratulations!
Hey, I'm excited too because I'm the "right guy!"
I can't believe that Mark is going to let his fantastic speedster go to a new home. I guess we both get to make a dream come. That's what I call a win-win!
Just a little medicine from one of your old shows and it should be running great! Congratulations.
If you have access to the web, the on-line encyclopedia has a good summary of the items that changed year to year. The top page is:
The 1922 model year page is: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1922.htm
The 1923 model year page is: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1923.htm
The 1924 model year page is: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1924.htm
Comprehensive 1921-1925 information at:http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1921-25H.htm
And the links below add really detailed items to the information above:
1922 at: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/doc22.htm
1923 at: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/doc23.htm
1924 at: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/doc24.htm
Note Bruce McCalley's Book "Model T Ford" has lots of photos for many of the items as well as his updated two disk CDs version. A lot of good information on the cars and what was typical on them.
Again congratulations on your new Ford!
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Yes, Tony is the one who will be taking my old speedster. I had offers from a few people here in Rochester who had seen my car regularly on the streets here in the city. Including a guy who actually stopped me in traffic and reached into a bag in his car and pulled out thousands of dollars in cash! He was obviously not the right guy.
There are people who like pristine restored stock Ts ... and there are some who would appreciate the lines and aesthetics of what I built from original metal parts as it would have been made in the early twenties. I am so glad it's going to the best person. It is a joy to drive.
And, I am so anxious to get the 23 T in my garage so that I can get greasy and breath life into that engine. Fingers crossed that it doesn't need too much. Not sure I can afford a complete engine overhaul. Might be some time before I'm driving again ... but when I can ... it's going to be great.
Anyone need a set of vintage 1919 New York plates? Now I'll be looking for 1923 New York plates if anyone out there has any to sell ...
Any good model T is a great and fun car! 1923 is a unique year, and more than most, illustrates the old adage that the model T Ford was "fifteen million cars, all alike, no two exactly alike". In the black era style, as most of them were, 1923 was transitional from the earlier black era style to the later black era style, which at a glance look alike. But in reality they changed quite a lot in minor details. While minor changes occurred every year, and not always (or even usually?) on the model year change, 1923 has the most (and most obvious changes) that some of which changed at the beginning of the year (either model or calendar?), or at the end of that year. The result is, that the '23 is unique in its combination of both earlier and later changes.
When I got into this hobby as a kid (a long time ago!), little was known about the '23 T. Most "knowledge" was second hand from the memories of people that had "been there". And most of those memories were faulty. Real research had just begun, and it was years before common errors in books and reference materials were corrected. And most of those errors are still out there in old materials. Hundreds of model Ts to this day are still misidentified and registered incorrectly because of the misinformation from many years ago.
Those of us that get into those nuances of that thing called a model T look forward to your return, and lots of photos of your car so we can see exactly what you got! And what to tell you to do with "your" car. It is of course, YOUR car. If it is a true '23? I hope you make it the best, most representative (and maybe best preserved depending upon condition?) 1923 T around!
Do drive carefully, AND ENJOY IT! W2