Which Warford is this?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: Which Warford is this?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Osterman on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 - 06:21 am:

Saw this on eBay and was thinking of bidding ... just don't know enough about them. I guess you get under, normal and overdrive ..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131986394858?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STR K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Longbranch,WA on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 - 10:08 am:

Late model Warford with PTO capability - I have one in my Gramps' truck. 3 speed - under, direct & over.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 - 10:58 am:

I am watching it too. The flange that mounts the cupping section to the rear of the Ford is messed up. Would take a bit of work to fix unless you have another one on hand. You would have to remove the 4 rivets that hold the tube in the casting, remove fix or replace the flange, reinstall the tube and re-rivet. Wish the photo of the gear was a bit sharper.

(Message edited by redmodelt on November 01, 2016)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John McGinnis in San Jose area, CA. on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 - 02:46 pm:

Looks about normal...gears seem OK. As said, the front extension/housing needs work, but doable. Get it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 - 03:57 pm:

Only if he goes over my high bid! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 - 04:37 pm:

That is an "iron" case, as opposed to an aluminum case. Often these are incorrectly referred to as "truck" Warfords. While slightly heavier than the aluminum case, both styles were originally sold for use in both car and truck chassis. They are not chassis specific. It appears to be missing the rear frame support bracket, which is easy to make. That frame support bracket may be car/truck chassis specific (a slight difference due to the height of the frame rails).
The gears look a bit rough, but I have seen worse looking gears work just fine. I have also seen prettier ones work not so well, hard to tell gear condition from photos.
While most model T Muncie and Warford auxiliary three speed transmissions are in fact under/direct/over drive? I have heard of or seen a few that surprised their new owners with an alternate gearing of two underdrives, and no overdrive. They are rare, and NOT desirable. So never assume, check. I won't say I "know", but looking at the photos, I think that one has an overdrive. (Been awhile since I sorted it out in my head, but the size/placement of the gears is different.)
Good luck to all bidding???
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Blake, Kansas City on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 - 05:16 pm:

In the ".....also viewed" was this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1930-1931-1929-1928-FORD-UNDERDRIVE-OR-AUXILLARY-TRANSMI SSION-MODEL-A-T-1926/222273997093?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3 D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39107%26meid%3D0c44339d2b4f45a988672e3 d7a162b4b%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D131986394858

I have no clue other than the coupling doesn't look T at all.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dale wcisel on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 - 08:10 pm:

Gary,
That is a 1928-'29 "AA" auxiliary. "AA"s got a 4-speed in 1930 and Ford stopped offering this unit on their trucks


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