Any New Yorkers out there sold a T to an out of state buyer? What paper work is really needed and can I keep my vintage 1919 plates?
In NY, titles aren't issued for any car older than a 1972 model. What you get for one of these cars when you register it is a so-called "transferable" registration. Just fill out and sign the reverse, and ownership then passes to the buyer, as far as NY State is concerned.
I don't know if you can hang onto your YOM plates, but at a minimum you will probably have to take them to the DMV. In order to keep them you may have to transfer the registration to another car. I'd call your county's central DMV office (not a local branch) and ask them.
To register the car in his home state, the buyer will have to jump through whatever hoops his state sets up for him. Not much you can do about that.
Thanks. That's what I thought about the registration card. When I moved here from Pennsylvania they took my neat large official looking title and gave me a normal
registration card.
About the antique set of plates ... I want to un-register them so that I can trade them for 1923 NY plates for the next T I'm buying. Sucks that they would need to take them!
Mark, They should not need to take the YOM plates. Your car should have been first registered in NY with either normal or historical labeled plates. If so, you should still have those and those are what be needed to turn into NY so your insurance will cancel your insurance policy on the car your selling.
Per NYS laws, you can not cancel insurance on your car without proof of surrendering your plates to your insurance company---NY will give you a plate surrender receipt to turn into the insurance company. If you look on your registration card, up near the top in the middle, there should be a plate number starting with HX (historical)-- or a regular 6-7 digit number. Those are the plates you should be turning in.
As RV said, just fill out the back of the registration card, and you should type up a "bill of sale" stating both parties names involved in the transaction, date, and amount paid. Two copies, one for each party and with live signatures on both.
I word them typically like this.
"I __________ hearby sell one 19XX Model T Ford to ____________ AS IS with NO implied warranty for $ XXXX.XX on (date)."
Past that, again as R.V. said, its up to the buyer to jump through the hoops in his home state to get it registered.
100% - KEEP THE PLATES.
I may or may not have kept most of the old license plates on cars I've had. The DMV really doesn't care. They just want to make sure that the plates aren't illegally put onto an unregistered car.
To cover their bases in CT at least, if you don't have your old plates, they ask you to fill out a postcard sized affidavit saying that you "lost" your plates.
I recommend that you tell the DMV that the car was sitting around and you can't recall what happened to them. Probably lost.