A Montier Ford resurfaces in France

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: A Montier Ford resurfaces in France
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Martin on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 08:28 pm:

A few years ago somebody shred an ad on here which listed a Montier Ford Speedster for sale. The car was in Paraguay and the ad was on an Argentinian website. The asking price was $80,000 which seemed a touch optimistic. I never tried to make contact and later heard it had gone to the USA (no idea of the selling price either). Well that same car has now turned up in France. I believe the current owner, who is a specialist vintage dealer, bought it last June and now has it advertised on his website for 49,000 Euros. It is in the centre of France, just west of Lyon. Although based on a Montier chassis with an original Montier OHV head, who built the body remains a mystery. Pretty car all the same. Here is the link;
http://www.automobiles-anciennes-decombas.com/FORD%20T%20MONTIER%20DE%201920-772-fr.htm
The original ad from 2012


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Blake, Kansas City on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 08:42 am:

To my eyes that is about the coolest T speedster I've ever seen.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 08:57 am:

La voiture est belle. Il vaut de líargent. Tout líargent.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 08:59 am:

Chris,

Thank you for pointing us in that directions. I probably will never make it over to France to see the car, but it is one very nice looking Ford! And hopefully they will figure out who made the body (it was clearly not Ford USA). For those that donít remember, you wrote a book about the Montier-Fords. Back in 2013 you mentioned how folks could purchase a copy at the forum link http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/407444.html?1386736167 For anyone interested in obtaining additional information about the history of the Montier-Fords, are copies still available and can they order them using the link/information in the 2013 posting or do they need to contact you about that?

Below is a shot of the Monitier-Ford head that is installed on the car that is listed for sale. It is posted here for educational purposes to show another over head valve marker's head and the car (body maker unknown to this poster).







And also included is a photo of the car the engine is installed.



Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 01:54 pm:

Was there pedal extensions or something on there? The driver would have to be 8 foot tall to reach them looks like?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerome Hoffman, Hays Kansas on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 02:45 pm:

Sexy!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Pharis on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 11:38 pm:

Very neat car, and good looking too! I like the tach drive off the back of the generator. And I've never seen a set of Buffalo's laced into 23" snap ring rims before... Way cool!!

A Montier OHV cylinder head? French you say? One in, three out, exposed pushrods, sure looks similar to an early Fronty... Hey!? Weren't those Chevrolet brothers Frenchies? I wonder...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Monday, November 21, 2016 - 11:48 am:

The first two Chevrolet brothers came here from Switzerland.
The third one came from France after his parents moved to France.
Since the Fords of those days were many in every continent I'm sure the Fronty heads were sold in Europe Too.
If Montier copied one I am sure he was not the only one to copy a Model T OHV head.
How do we know the Chevrolet brothers didn't copy some other make's OHV head?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Zachary Dillinger - Charlotte, MI on Monday, November 21, 2016 - 11:50 am:

That might be the most beautiful Model T I've ever seen. Inspirational.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Martin on Monday, November 21, 2016 - 11:54 pm:

Thanks for the response Hap. Yes, I do still have copies of the book, and the contact details are the same.
Mack, I suspect as the steering column looks to have been moved back and down, there may have been some alterations to the pedals, but as the seat appears low and slighty raked it may be that it is not such a stretch.
It is likely that Montier obtained a Fronty to copy, but as he knew a bit about fabricating and casting (he was a son of a blacksmith)it may have been a lot cheaper to have the heads made in France, just a question of economics given the currency rates of the day - Hemingway claimed a dollar went a long way in 1920s Paris!
As for the body, it was found in Paraguay, and as neighbouring Argentina had a popular race series for Model T based cars, it is possible somebody used a Montier racer and had it rebodied in either of those two countries; I am still making enquiries about that possibility.


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