I have brake shoes

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: I have brake shoes
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommy coffey on Monday, November 28, 2016 - 11:15 pm:

This is my 3rd post tonight, so far. Hope I don't get scolded for hogging the site but...
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I now have some brake shoes. Thank you James. As you can see in the photo the shoes are not identical. See the springs. Hopefully they will still work the same. I will order the new linings tomorrow with some other things that I need.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 - 01:48 am:

Tommy, the one on the left has proven problematical to me. The action of the cam drives one side of the shoe into the brake drum, but drags the other side away. The cast ends on the other shoe will resist this twisting action, but on the bent steel type it can bend in with the action of the cam. This made my brakes on that side ineffective, and made the shoe scrape on the drum.

Your experience may vary.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By W. Austen on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 - 11:07 am:

Be careful with the strap type brake shoes. I had a set that bent out of shape and locked up the wheels. Try to get a set of the shoes made out of chanel steel (Iron),they hold there shape, or even the cast lined shoes.
you might try contacting Layden Butler in the classified area - I got a set from him a few months back


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommy coffey on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 - 02:45 pm:

Well shucks. The linings that I thought I had , I don't have so I was going to order some today. Now I don't know whether to order them or not. I could just order some shoes with linings already on them, but I've heard some bad stuff about them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Longbranch,WA on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 - 04:59 pm:

All the above information is correct - too bad the fellow who sold those to you didn't make them matched set !

There was an additional "guide" that could be bolted to the radius rod bolts (I believe) that kept the steel band shoes more or less in shape when activating the hand brake.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 - 05:28 pm:

Tommy, the bad stuff you have heard probably pertains to the two piece product formerly supplied.
The newer one piece shoes are a vast improvement, ad I have had no fitting problems with these.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommy coffey on Friday, December 02, 2016 - 10:31 pm:

The lining that was on the shoes I have was a woven material. Will linings like Lang's # 2566AL fit? Thanks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommy coffey on Friday, December 02, 2016 - 11:04 pm:

Actually I just ordered some woven lining from McMaster-Carr. I ordered #6224K341 "High-strength also known as semimetallic woven strips with a brass wire woven into the material to increase strength and improve heat dissipation". What do you think?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Saturday, December 03, 2016 - 02:10 am:

The lining you bought should work fine. Be careful handling it with your bare fingers or they'll end up feeling like pin cushions. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Whelihan Danbury, WI on Saturday, December 03, 2016 - 05:56 am:

Tommy, The linings you purchased from McMaster-Carr are in my in-expert opinion superior to the normal vendor linings that are sold. I use a brake equalizer on my Improved car rear brakes to help stop the car a little better than just using the trans brake. The vendor linings did not work as well as the McMaster-Carr linings. The only modification I had to do was use a belt sander on them to reduce their thickness a little in order to obtain some clearance between the drum and brake shoe. Good luck!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommy coffey on Thursday, December 08, 2016 - 07:59 am:

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I now have the lining that I ordered from McMaster-Carr. I was suprised at how hard the lining is. I ordered , form another source, split rivets like the ones normally used to attach transmission bald linings. But, seeing how hard this lining is , I'm wondering if I should use the tube type rivets.
What did you use, Kevin?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommy coffey on Thursday, December 08, 2016 - 08:09 am:

I meant transmission band linings, not bald linings, Bald linings would be pretty much worthless, huh?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommy coffey on Thursday, December 08, 2016 - 11:14 am:

Considering how hard this lining is, I'm wondering about using flat-head countersunk brass screws, with the locknuts on the inside of course. Anybody done that?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Saylor, Citrus Heights, Ca on Thursday, December 08, 2016 - 12:35 pm:

Use the tube rivets with this..

Rivet tools


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Thursday, December 08, 2016 - 08:04 pm:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruckzone/albums/72157631228119782

Link to some shop photos. Scroll down a few to get to some brake lining restoration photos, after the whistle project.....


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