First read this:
It got me thinking...back in the day people would have used their Ts and T snowmobiles in very cold conditions. So to drive a T in such conditions what modifications would you need to make?
Could the leaf springs or pan ears snap if you hit a large pot-hole? Doesn't metal become brittle at low temperatures?
I would think at that temp. without the engine having a block heater it would never start. The oil would be so thick even jacking up a wheel wouldn't help. Bring out old Dobbin!
Maybe they used a lighter lubricant...water?
Fairly common lore from "the old days" around here, where it gets down to -25F in a normal winter, was to build a fire under the oil pan. (Don't ask me how many may have been set plumb on fire - I don't know) Another tactic was to fill the radiator with boiling water. I know, possibly crack the head or block. Any road, with a little successful (?) warming, once running, no problem. Alcohol was the anti-freeze used before the advent of ethelyne glycol, and in really cold temps, a must to keep the water from freezing in the radiator even while running. Winterfronts to cover all or part of the radiator were popular, as was disconnecting the fan.
Tim, maybe 0w20 oil might be okay? see:
You could also drain the oil and coolant and keep indoors then refill in the morning just before starting together with a fire (or heater) under the pan. Primer plugs might be a help and perhaps heating the intake manifold with a flame.
I can remamber when I was a kid,my dad would take the ash pan from the wood stove full of hot coals and put it under the oil pan to get his cars started in winter. That was in northern Michigan. Not a T of course but oil is oil.
My question is why the Siberian Times? And why is it in english?
I heard of guys draining the oil out of old cars and keeping it warm inside
Water was drained at night.
Fire was made under oil pan & rear diff.
I have had to do it to my F350 CC 7.3 Duallies.
Also on tractors I have hauled in extreme winter conditions
that had water in the rear diff and/or gear box.
I have picked up tractors in Winter years when I did not know better in areas of the north where if you turned off your diesel engine to fuel & go pay inside - good luck trying to start back up again ....
Some days you just don't leave home ..
Hi Constantine, Is it that cold where you are now. ?? If so, you need to come back to Arkansas. Its been in 50s to 70s degree range during the day. Like Jim said "some days you just don't leave home".
Come to think of it, I like the idea of just staying home even better! Actually not safe out in those temps anyway.
Donnie, not cold where I am, around +30F during the day.
Seems the best oil for these evil conditions could be Redline synthetic 0w20 oil with a pour point of -60C/-76F, see:
James, why Siberian Times English? No idea but I've heard that US patriot Edward Snowden does like starting the day with a English language broadsheet together with black caviar pancakes and a shot of Armenian cognac...as CNN keeps on saying it's a hard life in Russia...
Some places they just keep the diesels running idle all night. If they stop they'll never get them going until summer.....
My grandfather told me as a kid about all the people who had coal stoves in their garages, as well as those who used to put coal/ember fired heaters under the oil pans of their cars, plus adding a heavy horse blanket over the hoods of engines to get the cars going in the morning. He also told me with a chuckle they regularly had a spike in the number of garage fires all winter as well. Walking to the trolley stop or hooking up the horse to a sleigh was probably a better option.
There was a morning in Dec 09 when our International Airport reported the second-lowest temperature in the world, ahead only of some Siberian outpost.
It was a little warmer here in town at -35°C/-31°F when I saddled up the '26 Touring to go visit a friend. After 90 minutes at his place the engine would barely turn over with the starter. We had to pull the car down the alley to get it going.
Mercury freezes solid at 37.89 degrees F or 38.83 C. BURRRRRRRRRRR!
When it gets that cold, you better add an additive to the gasoline to keep it from freezing. In the far north, airplanes have been known to crash because the gas lines froze during flight.
-35*C, wow. It does not often get that chilly here. Negative twenties Fahrenheit once or twice a winter has been seen. I commend your hardiness. I drove my touring almost 200 miles one February. It was 10*F when I started out and warmed to a balmy 30* by the time I reached my destination though it was cooler when I returned home.
Humans were not designed for -76 F.
Some years ago I talked to an Alaskan bush pilot who said that in most cases when his airplane had to be left outside in the winter, he would drain the oil into a metal container that he carried for that purpose (Most piston aircraft have quick-drains that don't require tools). The still warm oil would be kept near the fireplace or stove until he needed the airplane again. He would pour the warm oil into the engine and it would usually start right up. He would also bring the battery inside.
I've read that standard brake fluid won't function properly in really cold temps, so in Russia's far north they use vodka in place of it.
RV. The vodka went inside the Russian!
Enough of it and they didn't care if the brakes worked.
In the mid 80's I worked as an industrial electrician in Wyoming Winter.
PCC (Project Construction Corporation) was building the La Barge Shute Creek plant.
Kemmerer, WY was the closest town at 33 miles away.
The day I arrived to start - they found (3) guys frozen dead in their car that went off the road into the plant.
All equipment was left running 24/7 - just shut down long enough to service it.
It was a T & M job - we would work for 15 minutes outside - then spend 15 minutes warming up in our plastic hooch by the propane bullet heaters.
Working 7 -12's was an experience.
That job and working off shore on the Shell oil platform Emmy out of Long Beach Harbor on a re-tool were my favorite industrial electrician experiences.