Anyone know about a Clement-Bayard?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Larson (Don) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 07:06 pm:

I'm an Avid Model "T" Member and have a couple of T's, a '26 Tudor and a '17 roadster. I went to look at another one a guy had for sale and he also had a 'Clement-Bayard' from France - anyone know anything about them? It was really a neat little car - had a BIG brass radiator BEHIND the engine! Thanks / Don Larson / Orlando / USA


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Pawelek-Brookshire,Texas (Michaelpawelek) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 08:21 pm:

Don, None of my books have foreign cars listed so I can't be any help on the "C-B". If you or your friend are interested in buying such a vehicle let me warn you about something you already know. Most any mechanical part that breaks will not be readily available and you will be at the mercy of a local machine Shop to hand make the new part. I've had a ton of fun rebuilding my 1899 Leggett but have had to spend many hours driving to a good machine shop 85 miles away to discuss making bronze bearings on a lathe from solid stock to manufacturing external exhaust springs that look more like giant paper clips. Be forewarned, these cars can give one a huge sense of gratification, but they are not Model T's and parts might be non existant. You will literally be on your own for information and parts....Michael
Leggett


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Merv Kroll (Mervk) on Sunday, December 01, 2002 - 07:14 am:

Boy, love your Leggett. Will search my encyclopedia for info. There are quite a few Clement Bayards around, and they are a nice little car, and I agree you must be prepared to do the full monty to keep such a car on the road. However, the satisfaction of doing so is tremendous. I am currently restoring a 1900 Finlayson steam car (one of a kind, so no off the shelf parts availability), have a 1904 Rambler, one of only 2 in Australia, as well as a 1910 BSA (only one of it's model/year in the world), 1914 Twombly (one of only 5 I know of), as well as several other quite rare makes. All these cars require manufacturing parts, and I wouldn't trade them for the world.

Having said that, for a really good day out, I always grab one of my 2 T's.

Merv from downunder.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Susanne Rohner (Baybridgesue) on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 08:14 pm:

I always figured if you owned an 'oddball', you'd better look into a lathe and milling machine - not necessarily a huge $$$ CNC, but something to make your own parts. Even with relatively common stuff, it'd be nice to have... But for the real fun stuff, you almost have to have a small machine shop (someday) or a large wallet!

Speaking of Twomblys, I saw one for sale recently - would that have been yours? Interesting cars, er cycles, er, vehicles! (grins)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Grant Stewart, Sr. (Davidgstewartsr) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 09:45 pm:

You should probably go to the aaca.org site for feedback on the Clement-Bayard. But since you're here, they were made from 1898 through 1922 in France. The radiator behind the hood was used by Renault and widely copied by French and a few American makers. Monsieur Gustave-Adolphe Clement began making the Clement and the Gladiator, but leaving the firm in 1903, he could no longer use his own name, so he changed his name to Clement-Bayard, the latter part being the name of a gallant French knight of the 1500s. He began putting the radiator behind the front hood in 1907. He sold his cars in England under the name Clement-Talbot. The cars were typically 4 cylinder, 8, 10, and 18 horsepower, water cooled, conventional driveshaft, and right hand steering typical of the era. In the postwar depression, Citroen acquired the factory in 1922 and used it to make Citroen spare parts. The Clement-Bayard was a lightweight car known for quality. 1912 Clement-Bayard.gif


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