Do anyone have pictures of the different types of coils used? I have read about Kingston, Heinze, Jacobson-Brandow, K-W and standard Ford coils.
How can you tell the difference between the types and years of a coil?
I know that many of you guys know a lot about this! Do you also have pictures???
Lorentz
The March-April 1993 issue of the Model T Times has a excellent photo's of all the Model T coils and coil boxes used in all years of production.
The Vintage Ford Volume 34 issue 4, 5 and 6 has a three part article on the relationship between Ford and the KW Company starting in 1912.
Additionally, the Model T encyclopedia has some excellent Model T ignition coil reference material.
If you have specific questions be sure to ask.
Ron the Coilman
I have only been a member for about 2 months and live in Norway. Therfore I don't have old issues of the magazines. But I will check out the encyclopedia. Thanks a lot coilman.
Lorentz:
I believe that all coils from 1913 to 1927 were the same size, however the coils from 1913 to 1917 had a brass cover on top of them.
Lorentz
If you contact Mr. Jay Klefoth (jay@mtfca.com) and Mr. Warren Mortenson (modelt@minn.net)they can arrange to send you back issues of the magazines I told you about for a small fee.
Ron the Coilman
Ok thanks.
I live in Norway and consither all pre 1913 coils to be almost non existant, at least at swap meets. After 1913, there were made only Ford and K-W coils? With a brass plate on the top and wood for the rest. Then in 1917, all wood, 1919 "Ford" burned in the side. And in 1924, "Ford" at the edge of the top piece.
I have bought NOS coil points and they are of the K-W type. Says "patented apr 7 1914. Will they work on my 1919-27 Ford coils???
Lorentz
All dates approximate.
After 1913 Ford and KW made most of the coils for Model T production. Some Kingston coils were used the same design as FordKWcoils.
The "Brass top" coils were made from mid 1913 to mid year 1917 and had no markings.
The first all wood coils with no marking were made from mid year 1917 to early 1919. In 1919 the word Ford in script was added and branded into the stationary side of the coil. In 1923 the script was changed and rolled into the top edge of the wood case. They remained unchanged to the end of Model T production.
The Patented date April 7, 1914 coil points will work on all Model T Coils from 1913 to 1927.
Ron the Coilman
Yes, they should be OK as long as the coils themselves are good, and are set correctly. It's the early ones that are the oddball size. By 1914 they were standardized.
Sue, Ron, and Dave, thanks to you. Here in Norway, the wood coils are not rare on swap meets. However the brass top coils have I never seen. But I'm pretty fresh to the Model T buisness and I'm sure there are some around.
Lorentz
This photo will get you started looking for metal top Model T coils. The top coil was used in the first half of 1913 and the lower coil was used from mid 1913 to mid 1917. They have no markings or Ford script
Ron the Coilman
Lorentz
This photo will get you started looking for metal top Model T coils in Norway. These are the first KW coils designed by Mr. Williams and patented in April 1914. The top coil is believed to be the first coil KW made for Ford and was used in the first half of 1913. The lower coil is also an early KW unit and was used from mid 1913 to mid 1917. Notice the earlier coil has a larger wooden box and all the terminals locations are different. The later coil was made by both Ford and KW Company and was to establish a standard size and terminal location for all Model T coils to the end of production. These coils have no markings.
Good hunting
Ron the Coilman
Where do you get the Model T encyclopedia? Is that Bruce Mccallys book?
Found it! Duh!