Assembly / disassembly questions 1926 roadster

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gerald Blair on Saturday, January 07, 2017 - 08:24 pm:

Taking apart my 26 Roadster and was wondering if there might be a sheet or diagram that list the bolts, thread size, type and locations. This car is missing a lot of bolts and I would like to put the correct type and size back in. I had like 3 different head sizes on the rear fenders. The front fenders only had 3 bolts plus the head lights holing them on. The splash aprons had 1 screw holding them to the body. Would like to put it back together right when I do.

Any tips to taking off the trunk? I havenít had time to look at it much yet and need to move all the parts I have off to so far to get them out of the way. I would like to take it all apart now that I have found so many bolts missing.
Thanks
Gerald





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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gerald Blair on Saturday, January 07, 2017 - 08:30 pm:

 T dis_1 1-7-17

 T dis_2 1-7-17


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Frost on Saturday, January 07, 2017 - 09:32 pm:

Good luck on your search. I'd also be interested in a bolt guide. Another thing that a vendor could put together, would be a kit that contained all the bolts and nuts required for a rebuild. A frame kit, a fender kit, a wheel kit, bet they'd sell.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Lloid on Saturday, January 07, 2017 - 09:47 pm:

I ordered correct bolts from Langs. They might be able to help you. Their are nice people and ship quickly. Just my experience. Tim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gerald Blair on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 09:56 am:

Did they use any lock washers on these cars? or was it just the nut and bolts


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 10:00 am:

Very few lock washers. Mostly bolts with castellated nuts and cotter pins. A couple of exterior locations used safety wire instead of cotter pins:

1) The wishbone ball joint cap studs
2) The lower two bolts that hold the U-joint ball cover at the front of the rear axle


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 10:35 am:

Gerald

For the rest of your tear down, preserve any original fasteners, place and mark locations and how fitted on paper and store each fastener(s) in zip lock baggies. That will sure help you months later in i.d. of what fastener and where!

Otherwise a good resource is a re-print copy of the Ford Service, Chapter XLII shows a few photos and details of many fastener types and location that can assist.

As Mark posted, few bolt only when a nut is fastened, most all used cotter or lock washer to secure important pieces for them to not shake off. The fender sheet metal to sheet metal normally only bolt, plain washer, and nut. On other fender parts like the frame to bracket, lockwasher or cotter depending on the fastener location.


Fasteners as pictured in late Nov '25 Service manual.


Original '26 fender fasteners, don't know month of assembly, but has other fasteners.


Now seem to use hex head instead of single slot bolt head.




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 11:16 am:

I hope you're keeping track of where you find things. There may be some incorrect items, but most are probably right and you'll be ahead of the game if you know where they go. Put the fasteners from each assembly in a little plastic bag and label it. Take lots of detailed pictures that will tell you later where things go, because you will forget. It's best to reuse original nuts and bolts wherever possible, because the new ones are not the same.

This chart is mildly helpful. It gives wrench sizes, not actual fastener sizes.





The following is incomplete, but mostly accurate. I think the folks who did it pooped out and quit adding to it. Over the years I've found a few errors, but not many.
























Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gerald Blair on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 02:32 pm:

That is a nice list of parts. Do you have that in a spreadsheet or PDF? I would like a copy if you do. There are just a few bolts holding things together that it is hard to tell if they are correct so this list will help. I am trying to keep the bolts, nuts and washers with the parts when I take them off.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A Bartsch on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 02:57 pm:

Steve: I second Gerald's thoughtful suggestion regarding obtaining a pdf or spreadsheet copy of the posted information. Thanks, jb


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 03:43 pm:

I copied the list from a PDF because the forum accepts only jpg or gif images. The PDF originally came from the Northern Colorado Model T Club website, which apparently is now defunct (404 error not found). It's a little cumbersome, but you could drag the images above to your desktop and save them as a PDF.

This is what happens when I try to post a PDF here:

application/pdf
Bolts_nuts_threaded_items.pdf (127.8 k)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 03:58 pm:

I clicked on the link and it opened right up as a .pdf file for me. My ancient PC is running Windows XP. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 04:05 pm:

It works for me too, but didn't in preview. Live and learn. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gerald Blair on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 04:16 pm:

Fantastic Thank you.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A Bartsch on Monday, January 09, 2017 - 10:24 am:

Thanks, Steve jb


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 12:58 am:

On our Canadian sourced improved cars for 26-7, the fender to splash apron bolts are unusual. They are 1/4" coarse thread bolts with an unusually small head. Are US made cars the same?

Allan from down under.


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