Just a few more pictures of the tear down.
Gerald, that's gonna be pretty!
Sidetracked mind: That's a cabinet radio under that little gas can ain't it? Like that too. :-)
Yes it is. That is another one of my hobbies old Radios, Clocks, Phonographs, even have a few teletype machines to work on when I get the time. A Lady form church gave that to me and said she listened to it when she was a little girl. She liked the shortwave and listening to the other languages. That is next on the list after the Model T.
When you took the turtle deck off, did it have four bolts in the base part of the structure? Also did it have any fasteners holding it to the body on the surface that you have laying on the floor in one of your pictures above? The reason I ask, it is believed to be early models did not have the two fasteners located in the vertical section of the back of the body on each side.
I had 14 bolts holding the turtle deck to the base and cab and the best I can tell there are 2 bolts and six screws holding the bed to the frame and cab.
I hope to get back on it later this week and get the bottom section off. I am not sure if the side slides into the tail coming off the cab or is it is attached somehow. I do not see anything holding it and it does not look like it is welded. I guess I will tear into it and see what happens.
Whoa. That's a lot of fasteners and that's very interesting! A bit different from my '18...
That'll feel good to get that cleaned up and stop any further deterioration won't it?
Now where's that LIKE button? ;-)
The two vertical fasteners on each side by the seat backrest, indicate to me that you do not have a very early 1926 vehicle (that would have been produced in calendar year 2015, (probably August or September--do not know for sure!).
Yours seem to have more fasteners holding the bottom section than what I have seen in the past. Perhaps Donnie Brown would like to comment!
I think from the SN on the engine and frame it was built June 7 1926. I am new to looking this up but think it is correct.
It does not look like I can remove the bed part from the cab. I started removing the six screws at the front of the bed and noticed some rivets in the cab corners. All of the bolts except one holding the body on the frame came off and it is carriage bolt under the seat that is set back a little and harder to get to. I might have to weld a nut to the top of it to hold it while I get the nut off under the car.
Would anyone know about how much the cab on this would weigh?
about 450 lbs I just took the body off the frame so it can be painted next week
Thank you for confirming production in the later part of 1926 models. The "bun" panel also looks like a latter edition. The fact that your turtle deck has the two vertical fasteners on each side (total of four) also points to a latter production vehicle!
I also forgot to mention that the spare tire carrier is mounted to the body by three or four bolts depending on when it was made.
Since yours is a late 1926 perhaps the floorboards have clips that hold them in place.
My rough old 26has the floor board clips that holds the floor in place also. My 27 doesn't have them, now I know why. Thanks Tim
Now I do not understand!!!
I thought that the change was to add the clips to keep the floor boards in place. That would mean new vehicles would have had them. You indicate that your 1927 does not have them!
Could you please take a picture of the area where the floor boards meet the side of the car where the split is between the the floor pedal slots. That may not describe it correctly, but a picture of the sloping metal on the passenger or drives side by the edge of the floor board may show us if your vehicle may have a hole or a rivet that once may have held the clip that rotated on the rivet to keep both of the sloping floor boards in place!
I am not sure, but this may have been a safety feature so that the boards did not come up when going over bump and blocking proper operation of the pedals.
If your 1927 has original metal sides to support the floor boards and does not have the clips, that may change our whole view of this change!
Here is a picture of mine.
Thanks for posting that picture. However, Tim indicated that his 1927 does not have the floorboard clips. This brings up a whole new question, as it was thought (at least by me) that it was a running change and that the floorboard clips would be in all 1927 models. Now I do not know!
I hope Tim posts a picture of his 1927 and if it does not have the clips, and it is an original, we now have another question about when the floorboard clips came about!
P.S. A few years ago another person told me he had a 1927 touring without the clips. I was able to look at the vehicle and it did indeed have the clips which made me think they were in all 1927 vehicles.
Another question for Tim if his 1927 does not have the clips is, is it possible that a early 1926 body was installed on a 1927 frame sometime in its life? If it is a 1927 frame the engine number should be stamped on it. That would prove it was a 1927 frame. As far as the body perhaps Donnie Brown could identify what year it was!
Can you provide a picture of your 1927 in the sloping metal area where the floorboards would fit like Geralds prior photo? We now have a "loose end" (were they used in all 1927 model vehicles???????????) as to the hold down clips for the floorboards for the 1927 model year vehicles based on your findings.
Well got it off the frame today. Was looking at it and trying to coordinate a few people to help and thought I can do this by myself and there it is. Now I need to find some help with the front axle, the lower holes are striped and needs the insert installed on the axle. After that I will tear into the rear axle.
Nice body dolly!