Perhaps engine splash pans have been discussed in the past. However, I was not able to find it. When I asked "Original Larry" what made the 1925 engine splash pans unique, he said go and research it!
Well, Larry, I have and did not come up with any meaningful information. Please let me explain, the July 1, 1927 parts list shows a picture of a engine pan right, with an oblong hole as part number 3084 or factory number 1330. It also states that it fits years 1909-1927. The parts book did not have any suffix after the number to indicate possible revisions.
When I look at restored vehicles many do not have the engine splash pan installed. On ones that have engine splash pans installed it is many times not known if they are reproduction or original parts. That is why I though "Original Larry" would be the go to person for this.
At any rate I looked through the parts catalogs and Langs' had different styles for 1909-1911; 1911-1914; 1915-1918 and 1919-1927. At least that shows there were some differences through the years.
I next went to the Seventh edition of the Model T Ford club 7th edition of the Judging Guidelines. For the years 1925, 1926 and 1927 it states: "Stamped steel, simplified design. Painted black".
From discussions on this forum, it appears that there were changes in the engine splash pans for those years. At the very least we should help Russ Furstnow in his quest to have an accurate judging guideline!
Today, I dug up my right side engine splash pans and took a photo. I do not know if any are original equipment or for what year they are intended. I will try to attach a photo and maybe some experts can say for what years they are and it they are original.
The pan on the top photo has two holes each about two inches in diameter.
The pan below the top on in the photo has one hole about 1 3/4 inches in diameter.
The pan at the bottom of the photo has a hole about 2-3/8 in diameter.
I anyone knows what is original and can point it out, that would also help the fellow who does such good artwork drawings of many Model T Ford parts.
A good example of his work and this forum help to get the correct results in in the improved Ford gasoline shut off and the filter screen within that part. After many attempts, with the help of this forum the artist got it correct to the general census at this time.
I think this is my goal for when he draws up the engine splash pans! I think we want to pass correct information on to future generations so they can make the vehicles as authentic as possible if that is there desire, or at least know what was correct when it was built.
I am having trouble attaching the photo so I will try that in another post.
Can anyone tell me how to post the photo? I hit upload attachment and hit the browse button to get the JPG photo listed, but when I hit upload attachment nothing happens.
The single 2 3/8 diameter hole sounds very much like the splash pan on my 26 Tudor (now installed on my '26 touring). Strangely enough, the '26 Tudor they came off had a vaporizer with all the factory linkage. I suspect it was one of those cars that Ford was using up all the old model parts rather than installing the newer two hole ones. No sense letting anything good go to waste!
I could swear this post was just discussed recently. The '25-6 cars used a single hole splash pan with a nice S curve at the back by the carburetor. I like the S curve, because it is a nice place for the Stewart speedometer cable to go through. If enough people got on my case, I could take a picture of one, but I detest taking pictures, cause I'm not handy with a camera! The cars with a vaporizer have two holes, the second one being just ahead of the first one. I couldn't find a nice original straight one, so I gave a NOS two hole splash pan to Rootlieb to copy without the second hole, and it's on my car.
If someone would give me their e-mail address I will send the photo of the engine pans to you and then ask that you post in this thread!
I am having problems posting the photo to the forum but can e-mail it to someone. I would then ask this person to post the photo here. I think perhaps the photo has a picture of the 1925 right engine splash shield, but that would need to be confirmed by "Original Larry, Donnie Brown or other expert". If it is the correct one (not saying it is now) that would help others to know what to search for.
My email is arniejohatyahoocom. The at should be replaced by @ in order to send me an email.
Here is Arnie photo for those that may be able to help him out.
Thanks for posting the picture.
Please look at the lower engine splash pan and let me know if it is the 1925 original, or reproduction or none of the above!
The lower splash pan is correct for a '25. Note that it is the same as the top one minus the front hole. I think this topic would make a good research project.
Another interesting point is the part in the center of the photo has 3 engine attachment points. The other two have 2 engine attachment points. Does anybody know why?
The lower engine splash pan is like the one on my 1925 model year car. The engine number is from October 27th 1924.
The splash pan on the bottom is the one that was on my '26 Tudor as well. Engine build date November '25, but equipped with a vaporizer. Assembly date for the car was around the second week of Dec. '25. No the hole in the pan did not align with bowl on the vaporizer, but it does with the NH. Wish I could find another set of salvageable factory splash pans like the lower ones for my Tudor (with the NH). So far, no luck.
I mentioned before that Rootlieb made me a perfect copy for my car. I told him to keep the pattern to sell to others, but I don't think he did.