Factory postcards: What year?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2017: Factory postcards: What year?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 11:02 am:

Thanks to Hal Schedler for sending these Ford factory photos. The cars being assembled are obviously 1914 or earlier, but I'm not expert enough on the pre-15 cars to peg the year. What is the model year?


















































Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Leo van Stirum on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 02:17 pm:

What a great set of cards, thanks for sharing Steve !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 02:45 pm:

1914


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 02:55 pm:

Just, WOW !!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls, WI on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 03:17 pm:

With the power plant and admin buildings gone you wonder what is still left inside the plant or is it just one big empty space.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Eviston on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 03:26 pm:

Not disagreeing with Royce because has many older pictures.But,like mine under interesting,facts it has projected production for "this year,1917".Maybe only that wass updated.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Eviston on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 03:32 pm:

AND,NOW that l wake up more.l know why they used older pictures.Here's a hint:Where were most postcarda prited then?Anybody care?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron in Central Massachusetts on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 03:35 pm:

Dave, the Administration building is still standing I think.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brian Beatty _Kansas City on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 03:42 pm:

Jim,

You asked, "Where were most postcards printed then?"

I'll go with Germany. Final guess. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Eviston on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 03:56 pm:

A Gold Star for Brian.We did not have the ability to make ink colors like that,l was told by an old printer.Either that,or the chemicals to make those colors were so toxic,that even WE knew better than to fool withw them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Eviston on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 03:56 pm:

A Gold Star for Brian.We did not have the ability to make ink colors like that,l was told by an old printer.Either that,or the chemicals to make those colors were so toxic,that even WE knew better than to fool withw them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Colin Mavins Winnipeg,Canada on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 04:03 pm:

1916 but the cars are 13-14 on the figures page it said the production for 16 is and the planned production for 17 is 700,000 so the cards must be from 1916 Cheers Colin


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Thomas Mullin on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 04:19 pm:

Wasn't there a major expansion of the Highland Park Plant in 1916, along Manchester Avenue (south side of factory)?


Here's a slightly more recent photo of the plant in its heyday.

Highland Park aerial


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house . . .caldwell county, TX on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 04:52 pm:

At first I thought 1913 or 1914 because of the black/brass chassis outside early on in the selection. Then, several cards later, it appeared like wooden coil boxes on an assembly line card so I narrowed it to early 1913. But toward the end a card revealed 1916 production figures :o( so I looked at the postage stamp and can now unequivocally state the year is 2016. ;o)
Totally interesting and engrossing. Thanks Strve !!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Bond on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 06:37 pm:

I think a mix of photos are used. I see wood and steel coil boxes as well as extended rear crossmembers (1914) and the little cast iron rear body brackets indicative of the 1913s. Per the verbage on the card it's clearly intended as a 1917 intro/advertising piece so seems to have been produced at the end of 1916. There are two versions of this card around, one showing the plant and the other with a portrait of Henry on it. Are there any others?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 08:36 pm:

It has many of the same photos that were used previously as black and white photos in the 1915 Ford Factory Facts see:
http://www.mtfca.com/books/15_factory.htm

In both of them, the photo with the caption "The garage where cars remain all day in safety" has what appears to be a 1912 Torpedo Roadster as shown below:



Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Eviston on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 08:48 pm:

Below the 1916 production figures, it says PLANNED FOR THIS YEAR 1917.The reason l find this interesting it shows the impact of the war on things like postcards,but does not anticipate wartime material shortages impeding production.We could well have already declared war when this was printed.For something that was likely only available for a couple months,l feel lucky to have a 'NOS' unmailed set.Somewhere.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 09:38 pm:

Count me as a strong skeptic of the German colors theory. Beginning with Currier & Ives lithographs in the middle of the nineteenth century, hand coloring, and then machine coloring, of black & white lithographs and photos was a standard practice in American printing. If I could remember where I put them, I'd post some stereo cards from the early 1900's with colors added.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 - 12:01 am:

It says right on one of the post cards, 1916!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 - 12:06 am:

Of course it does. But that's not when all the pictures were taken. Most of the cars are 1914 models.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Simmering, Afton, TN on Thursday, February 23, 2017 - 02:33 pm:

I have three of these sets. Two of them were printed by a Detroit firm. The other was printed
in Chicago for a Detroit firm. An interesting point is that all three contain the identical famous photo of the workers in front of the factory showing different numbers of people. One states president Wilson speaking to 20,000 Ford employees. The next is titled 50,000 Ford employees and perhaps the latest is titled 65,000Ford employees !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Thursday, February 23, 2017 - 09:35 pm:

There were no PA systems in Wilson's day. I wonder how many of those folks were actually able to hear him.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Thursday, February 23, 2017 - 09:46 pm:

The Interesting Figures document is not part of the post card set.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Rentz on Saturday, May 06, 2017 - 11:35 pm:

http://www.mtfca.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=708324&post=932027#POST932027
Ron, if you look at the full front postcard you'll see the Administration Building is to the right of the old Power Plant Building. The one that still stands was the Sales Office Building and the one that the Woodward Avenue Action Association (or something like that - WA3) has purchased. The sales office was built around 1920 or so as I recall.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Rentz on Sunday, May 07, 2017 - 12:09 am:

Some inside looks from a recent (legal) visit to the Highland Park Plant of an event hosted by the WA3. The inside views are of the Sales Office and the Executives Garage behind that building- https://flic.kr/s/aHskUifacL


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jesse L. Ashcraft on Sunday, May 07, 2017 - 08:15 am:

Wait a minute. Ford had a band? I get the emergency facility and the English classes but a band?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Sunday, May 07, 2017 - 03:57 pm:

In January, 2016, the Model T Ford Club International (MTFCI) had their Annual Meeting in Dearborn, MI. During that weekend, we had a tour of historical sites in the area and we visited and were in the Ford Sales Office and the Executive
Garage pictured above. As Paul Rentz said above, these buildings have been purchased by the WA3 and their intent is to restore them.

Many thanks to Steve Shotwell for organizing that meeting and tour of many area historical sites.

Thanks again to Steve!

Keith


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