I am not all the time on the MTFCA forum and my project continue slowly… But I would like to show you what I have done, and I have some questions. I finally found solutions for my rear axle, but it is not finished… I made a firewall just to test my column. I mounted it at 23" (582mm) between the radiator and the firewall like as Ford made between 1909 and 1914, but my carburator and ignition control rods are too short! Do you have an idea of the trouble? The measurement between the radiator and the firewall is different on the 750 first cars?
You may have a later steering column. The steering column lengths got longer in 1911 and 1912.
Thank you for your message. I have to control that... But I bought this steering column at the beginning of my project with the help of a well known parts dealer.
I have often wondered about this find. Thank you for posting updates.
My Oct 1908 parts book for 2-lever cars has commutator rod 13 5/8 long and the carburetor pull rod 15 1/8 . In my parts book for 09/10 /11/12 the 09/ 10 steering gear post is 51' long and the 11/12 steering post is 53' long . Hope this helps .
I have 2 1909 steering columns. One is from car #220. They both are 49 1/2 inch long.
Thank you for your help.
Could you show me from where to where you took the measurements on the steering column?
If that's a 11 volume long there hard to find. I'd get a 24 or something. You can cut them down. I just did mine on the speedster.
The 49 1/2 in measurement is from the top of the main tube, under the brass gear box to the end of the steering shaft.
Thank you for the explanations and the pictures. If I measure like Kim did I have 573mm (about 22 1/2"). So it is too long...
I don't know what to do...
Brice, you can shorten the steering column jacket and re mount the quadrant. You will then need to shorten the spark and throttle rods and re drill the holes for the spark and gas arms. You will also need to shorten the steering shaft and re machine the taper, key slot and re thread the end.
To bad you got the wrong column, the 1909 column is hard to find and can be expensive! Best of luck to you on your project.
Is there a chance that Kim's column is for a torpedo? I would think that would be even rarer.
David, measuring the same way Kim did it, a 1911 Torpedo / Open Runabout (60") column tube is about 29-1/2" long.
A standard '11 - '12 (56") column tube comes in at just under 26" measured the same way.
So, it's longer than an '09 but shorter than a standard 56" column. Does that make it a 1910?
Brice, It sounds like Glenn has TWO and he might sell you one?? I see you are in France so shipping may be the deciding factor. Good luck.
If I summarize :
1909 2 levers : tube measurements =20"
1911 torpedo : 29 1/2"
Standard 1911 : 26"
So from which year is my tube?
@Glenn : could we speak in private message about your tube?
@Kim : 23" is right between the radiator and the firewall? Did you received my e-mails?
Maybe you saw in my others posts that my cylinder bloc is not in very good conditions... I found a solution to fix it but it is not sure to be possible. Do you think other people are interested if I make new cylinder blocs?
The measurement is 25" from July 7, 1910 until the first 20,000 cars in 1912 model year including tourings, town cars, coupes and commercial roadsters. The town cars also used the 25" dimension until 1917.
Brice I would say your tube is from 1909 after the first 2500 cars until July 7, 1910.
Royce, this is a picture of the column from my 2 lever. As you can see it measures the same as the column on my 1910 #23805.
Interesting. The column from # 22 measures 20 1/2 at the same spot.
Thank you very much everybody for your help and advises.
I will see what I will do.