But what is a WAIT certificate??
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/ford/model-t/1912547.html

Great looking TT with express bed. Unless being a TT it's a "weight" certificate

No, no, no. It is a wait certificate. It's a TT. You must wait a while to get anywhere.

Nice looking truck. I wonder what it will bring. If I thought I could get it for $844 I'd move fast!

LOL, good one Henry

California requires a weight certificate when registering.

Yeah, I should have just registered my '25 pickup as a roadster. Now, I have to pay more. Of course, I'm in California!

Antique trucks are exempt from weight fees in Ca. as long as they are not used commercially. Most DMV staff are not aware of this so I take my copy of the vehicle code with me when go. Usually a supervisor has to override the sysyem computer's demand for more $$$. They are almost always ignorant of any parts of the code that give you a break and get a little sniffy when some lowly citizen points out the law in what they consider the Bible.

Here's another good one from the same seller. Flood damaged 1913 touring. Est. of $1224.00

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/ford/model-t/1915652.html

Same seller two different states, CA & LA. I wonder if he works for our old friend Mr. B.

Several years ago when I registered my TT (first time since 1941), I knew that I could escape the California weight fee but chose to pay it. I wanted to be able to use my truck as a truck. At this point the last total annual renewal cost was $102.00, so whatever the savings would be, it's not a big deal.

There is a nice article about a TT restoration in this month's Hemming's Classic Cars magazine.

They actually have cars for sale all over the US. It's like an Insurance Sale type company. Most of the cars have had some sort of damage or another. - Matt

Actually in California the weight fee cut-off is 1936. Any truck manufactured prior to 1936 is exempt. And Eric is right that DMV will not tell you this fact, you have to inform them that you are aware of this statute, then they will ask a supervisor and finally you will get the exemption. The California weight fees really raise the cost of licensing a truck. The fee exemption, as long as the truck is registered with a regular license plate (not a historic vehicle plate) does not keep you from using the truck as a truck.

There's no telling what's wrong with the 1913 besides those springs, but if you could really get it for that kind of money it wouldn't matter.

Larry, a pickup with a gross weight under 3,000# may be registered as a passenger vehicle in California...since 1929! YOM commercial plates might muddy the waters, but call this lady:

Audrey DMV (714) 782-7816 (private business, not with DMV)

and talk to her. She is old-car-law savvy and may well be able to help you.

My guess; Vehicles are total losses, so buyer has to "wait" for the title to arrive from the insurance company. Buyer gets a "certificate" instead.
Good lookin' truck, but who knows what else could be wrong, maybe some hidden fees, and probably a salvage title.

Check your state's laws carefully- here in Virginia a vehicle with insurance damage over a certain threshold cannot be retitled. Scrap only. The automobile industry (dealer lobby) in the state became concerned about the numbers of vehicles being rebuilt and had their lackeys in the state legislature make sure this avenue of vehicle repair was killed. Those that are repairable are marked titles and won't bring anything close to true value, which ensures that most of them won't be repaired either. I can work for a commercial body shop, All schools, certifications, tools and equipment mine, and can correctly repair most anything and it's fine with DMV. If I go to an insurance sale, buy an identical vehicle and rebuild it for my own use it is a shouting match with the DMV inspector telling me I'm not qualified to repair the car.??? And the guy can't tell me why I'm not qualified? Would you buy a vehicle under those circumstances to repair only to find it couldn't be sold down the line with a title? Stopped me. Here's a view of my world for 40 years LOL

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That '13 in the Hemmings post above by Matthew is a bargain at twice the price! The serial number plate on the dash indicates it was only made 93 cars before mine!

Does anyone know what the 13 sold for?

For those of you in California that may need to register a pickup and want some back up at the DMV, here's a link I found to the california DMV code for commercial vehicle that has the exclusion for pre 1936 vehicles. The way I read it, it should include a TT truck as well:

https://books.google.com/books?id=NbSZCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA120&lpg=PA120&dq=Commercial+ Vehicle+Registration+Act+of+2001&source=bl&ots=QegUMsmm0t&sig=Pz8SBvwWujFPOGH3sa ycrtKIxvM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-zd35xMrSAhVD_WMKHebGD6w4ChDoAQgZMAA#v=onepage& q=9401%20(a)&f=false


I tried to upload the pages but the file is too big.

Geez Gary, I hope your not planning on driving that car home any time soon. There seems to be a problem with the front suspension.

Gary, does hanging them from the ceiling make it easier to work on? Wouldn't have to bend over to do anything. . . .

That hanging picture was a redo, when trying to edit/delete the site timed me out....I only get the upside downers on this site- occasionally. lol