Probably be next speedster project. Pie wagon? Depot Hack?
Anyway, my earlier projects used frames that did not have this bracket up by the hood shelves. Riveted on, not bolted, so presume factory.
Motor dates to 24. Is this a 24 frame as well?
Seems complete but only one running board bracket across the front, rear is missing. But battery cable support, battery box and hold downs, etc. Hope to get the motor running and start another project with it.
Thanks in advance.
26 or 27. the bracket you mention was only used these 2 years. The rear cross member would be different also.
24 motors never had the coil box mounted on them.
That coil box looks like another one of those early style 1926's, with the two bolt mount instead of three bolts, but I can't tell for sure.
Agree with Jim
'26-'27 frame. Suspect your front cross member has been changed, many have as the front member takes a lot of abuse from the spring and motor weight.
Here's a '26, note the big fat non-factory rivets, as this cross member has been changed. Sketch of '26-'27 frame.
Robert, can you post a pic of the other side of the coil box. or does the coil box mount with two head bolts or three head bolts. Thanks ....
Hmmmm... sounding more and more like a Frankenframe. Front crossmember is bolted into the side frame rails, not riveted. But, some other possible mismatch or a transitional from from one year to another?
Engine is serial number to Sept. 24. The frame rails by the motor have the hood shelf brackets riveted to them. The one remaining running board bracket is riveted. The battery box frame is riveted to the frame except for one bolt connecting the negative ground cable. The rear crossmember does not have the lower lip or flange to it. There is no serial number that we can find after light sanding on either the passenger side by the ebrake yoke or on the drivers side by the engine under the fender mount. It is a 4 dip pan, but not the two hole dog ear hogshead.Coil box attaches with three head bolts.
If the hood shelf brackets were only a 26/27 thing and I'm confident they are original to the frame, does that etch it in stone that this is a 26/27 frame? Is that the Rosetta stone on this frame? Then, why no stamped number?
If a Ford dealer installed an earlier engine in this car in later life, would they be obligated to grind off the engine number from the frame?
Yes. Your frame is actually an early '26, the Improved Car came out Aug.1925. The earlier Improved car frame never had serial engine stamps, as those came along late Dec. 1925.
This earlier frame features the wide rear cross member without flanges on either side, just straight sides.
Riveted battery box is typical, some were bolted on, depending on assembly branch methods. The bolt hole for the battery strap is standard.
And...zooming in on the rear axle, the backing plate has the earlier design 'clips' to hold the rear brake shoes. Should have standard oil drain hex plug, as the later '27 rear housings had pipe plug with square hole to remove.
So, the frame is early '26, front cross member replaced at some point. And at some point an earlier engine installed, but the installer left on the Improved Car water outlet with fan assembly, and left on the Improved Car coil box to boot!
And, for what it's worth . . .
we got the darn thing started today!