Hey there guys...as I am still a newbie to this group, I am digging into the history of my 1923 touring...so at least the registration says.
The engine serial number shows that engine is 1926 and the carb appears that it is also associated with the 1926 time frame.
So with all that being said... is there a sure fire way to determine if my car is a 1923 or 1926?
I have attached some pics to get your thoughts and opinions! Also let me know if there is a specific picture that you would like to see if it would help.
Thanks as always!
It is definitely not a 26.Looks like a 23 low cowl with one man top.
Here are a couple more pics.
You have a '23 touring body if you have correctly identified the year of your engine block then it has a '26 replacement engine...looks like a nice car Jason... it is interesting though that it appears to be a crank start so it might have it's original transmission and been ordered with out electric start I think by '26 most were electric start
Many T's run around with later engines in them. Nice looking '23 !
It actually does have an electric start. I have been working on her, pulling her out of the mothballs, to get her in a starting condition.
Can you tell me what makes it stand out as a '23 vs a '26? What do you look for?
The fender shape and body shape are completely different on a 26. A late 23, 24, or 25 have very subtle differences, but 26 and 27 were a different ballgame. The differences are too numerous to list. If you have either of the late Bruce McCalley's books, or catalogs from any vendor, check out the pictures for differences.
More pictures are better,I amend my year to 24-25. High hood
26 and 27 look more like Model A's than Model T's. ... straight cowl-to-hood,
high mounted "froggy" headlights, round-topped fenders, and often the radiator
shell and headlights are nickel plated.
Early 26's will have fender-mounted headlight stems, going to the 27 style head-
light bar (like Model A's have) later in production.
You most definitely have a pre-26 car there.
Not '25, wrong door hinges for a '25.
Which, in thinking about it some more, would make me think this is a '24 YEAR MODEL made in '23, and has likely been registered as a '23. The '26 motor is a replacement.
Slanted windshield: 1923 or later. Low radiator (17"): 1923 or earlier. High radiator (18"): 1924 or later. Handbrake quadrant: 4 rivets = 1924 or earlier; 2 rivets = 1925 or later. Apron under radiator: 1924 or later. 3 doors: 1925 or earlier.
Check radiator height.
This one is low (1923 or earlier). High (1924 or later) would be 18".
Bottom line: features say 24-25. The handbrake quadrant wil tell you which.
(Message edited by steve_jelf_parkerfield_ks on March 27, 2017)
26-27 tourings had a cowl mounted gas tank which yours doesn't have
Your car is a 1924.
High hood with unequal door hinges.
The proof is in the splash aprons. Yours are rounded...making it pre '26. '26 & '27 were square just like a model A.
Here is a 26. You will notice that it sets lower to the ground. The gas tank is under the cowl. On the 23 the ignition coils are under the cowl. The fenders are also different on the 26 and the 26 has 4 doors where the 23 has 3 doors.
Looks like a 1924: high cowl and radiator, not equal door hinges, front fenders with lip and splash apron below the radiator.
Wow... lots of great information!! Radiator is 18" and hand brake quadrant has 4 rivets.
High radiator + four rivets = 1924.