6 Cylinder Model T

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2017: 6 Cylinder Model T
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Angelo DeFrange on Monday, April 03, 2017 - 09:32 pm:

i seen a thread from 2012, where some were talking about a motor that my great grandfather built. he did it in 1919 and it has been in the family ever since. i couldn't figure out how to post in that thread, so i thought i would create a thread and share some pictures. cheers!








Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Monday, April 03, 2017 - 09:45 pm:

Being a proponent of 6 cylinder Fords, great thread. There were other 6 cylinder Fords built "in the day." At least one was a successful racer.

Thanks for posting.....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les Schubert on Monday, April 03, 2017 - 11:04 pm:

Very impressive!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Barrett in Auburn Ca. on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 02:30 am:

Some years ago there was a feature article in the VF mag about one of these. I believe the builder was Kirk Wright? Article was titled "The joy of six" Some guys have too much time on their hands. I wish I did.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 03:33 am:

Here's the 2012 thread on four to six conversions: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/288037.html?1337594869

It's impressive that a crankshaft that was welded together from five pieces in 1919 is still holding up :-)
I wonder how much it has been run?

Maybe we shouldn't discard cracked cranks found with magnafluxing - they could be welded and used for years afterwards?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 06:29 am:

Angelo,

Thank you for adding the photos and additional history on the engine. Is it still mounted in the 1926-27 style Roadster Pickup chassis?

This appears to be your first posting -- welcome to the forum!

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Perry Goble on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 08:03 am:

Ford did build a six cylinder Model T ford ,it was the model J . When I was young I would go to all the old garages in all the near by towns looking T parts . That's were I first was told of a man that had a six cylinder Model T back in the day . Later I read a article on the Model J Ford . There was also a six cylinder Model N Ford .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dale w on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 08:06 am:

Nice work!
Oh, what could have been if Henry hadn't despised the poor 6 cylinder.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jeff Perkins / St. Croix Valley Mn on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 09:24 am:

Here is a short story from "Secrets" magazine (Secrets of Speed Society) about Kirk Wright's 6cyl. T.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Angelo DeFrange on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 02:03 pm:



this is the chassis it's currently in. 26 model extended 10"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 02:51 pm:

Ford did not dislike the 6 cylinder it was the cost. That has been gone over many times here on this forum.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert G. Hester Jr., Riverview, FL on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 03:35 pm:

Believe it or don't, there was also a five cylinder Model T. I saw one in a museum in about 1960.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Coco - Winchester Va. on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 05:12 pm:

Angelo, that's a fascinating piece of history, thanks for sharing both the story and the pictures! Do you plan to get it back on the road?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rolf Oehman Oslo Norway on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 05:15 pm:

Very interesting photos. What crank is in the engine and is there only 3 bearings in the block ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rolf Oehman Oslo Norway on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 05:24 pm:

Just got answer from the article . Did't notice the text at first. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed Archer Hayward, CA. on Wednesday, April 05, 2017 - 05:38 pm:

Angelo, I used to tour with Jim in the old 6 cyl. roadster pick up. Enjoyed every minute of it, great guy, fascinating well done conversion on that engine. Hard to see where they were joined together. Sad loss when we lost Jim and I often wondered where the car ended up.

Ed aka #4


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Angelo DeFrange on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 12:08 am:

very cool to hear Ed! my grandpa would drive dad around in it when he was 4 or so years old, and dad would drive me around at around the same age. i now have a lil girl going on 4 so i am about to do the same. she still runs, but only for a few seconds. i have to rebuild the carb and she will be as good as new!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Warren on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 09:52 am:

That obviously was quite an accomplishment to have done it and it be dependable enough to use it. Great story. I have heard that someone also built a V8 model t engine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed Baudoux Grayling Michigan on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 09:58 am:

Angelo, it's great that you still have this car!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don - Conroe, TX on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 10:50 am:

Having a family heirloom car like this is cool.

Having a family heirloom car modified in this fashion, with an old newspaper write-up is beyond cool.

I think I speak for many when I say that we'd love to see many more photos and even a video or three if you can manage.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed Fuller on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 01:41 pm:

What a great piece of ingenuity.

I would love to hear it run!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eddy Lee Emerson on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 06:36 pm:

Some years ago the Oklahoma Special T's had a tour at McAlester, Oklahoma. One of our stops was at a car show at Robbers Cave State Park. The car parked next to me was this 6 cylinder roadster. Ed 6 cylinder model t6 cylinder model t


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed Baudoux Grayling Michigan on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 06:52 pm:

That sure looks like the same engine to me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eddy Lee Emerson on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 08:19 pm:

I'm sure it is the same engine. Ed


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Angelo DeFrange on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 - 12:46 am:

finally got it going

https://youtu.be/zksD6uCkEXs
https://youtu.be/BuhzVDPe9WA


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 - 09:07 am:

Sounds sweet !!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Duey_C on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 - 04:48 pm:

That's awesome!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Coco - Winchester Va. on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 - 04:58 pm:

That really does sound good, congrats to them for getting it running.

I realize that T guys love their fours, but can you imagine if Henry had produced a six cylinder Model T? Cost to manufacture would have been just an few dollars over the four. While I realize the T was a huge sales success, just imagine having the choice for a wee bit more power for just a few pounds more cast iron!

Neat stuff....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth in Alabama on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 - 05:12 pm:

What's the firing order? And I'd be really curious to see what the power difference is.


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