Tires, tubes, and changing them

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2017: Tires, tubes, and changing them
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tinkering on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 02:12 pm:

Where is the cheapest place to by tires and tubes? I'm in Canada.
Where are the best instructions for changing the 30 inch tire out?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 05:28 pm:

Tire Irons Bud Jonas, 616-835-3340
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/147691.html?1278170425 for a discussion of tire irons and includes Bud Jonas’ phone number who has supplied a nice one for years.
Tinkering,

Welcome to the forum. The Foot Hills chapter of the club is located there in Calgary and should be able to give you some good advice on where to obtain tires & tubes etc. Their home page is at: http://www.foothills-t.club/ Depending on the cost of shipping, customs, etc. it may be less expensive to purchase the tires & tubes on your side of the border or it might be less expensive to purchase them in the USA. While I’m not familiar with that cost comparison – I suspect several folks in the club at Calgary have purchased tires & tubes and can give you some recent information.

And be sure your rims are in good shaped. The 30 x 3 ½ inch demountable clincher rims [as well as the non-demountable ones) tend to rust where they touch the outside of the tire. When that area starts getting thin, it tends to become sharp and will cut the tire – which causes a flat.

And be sure you are getting the correct tires & tubes. Over the years your 1923 TT may have been fitted with later or even earlier wheels and rims. And you did not say if wanted information on the 1922 TT listed in your profile or if you want information for a car etc. Because of the several possibilities – it would probably be easier if you had someone local take a look at your vehicle. Plan B – post some photos of the tires & wheels you are talking about.

How for information about how to change a clincher tire – “IF” that is the type you are asking about, please see:
See: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/111447.html which has the link to Philip changing a clincher using the trash bag method on U-tube at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6sH8WRl6yI He makes it look really easy. Of course they didn’t originally mount them using plastic bags so if your are a purist…never mind….

See also related trash bag changing method discussed at:: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/124190.html and http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/115925.html

You can also use tire irons – and in that case the tire irons shown in Philip’s video at the very beginning are an excellent choice. They are available see the discussion at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/147691.html?1278170425 about tire irons and includes Bud Jonas’ phone number who has supplied nice tire iron for years.

Dan Treace has an excellent photo and word explanation for using the tire irons at: http://www.model-t-ford.org/projects/clincher_tire_mounting.htm but unfortunately that link no longer works. On that same thread, Royce demonstrated how he left the wheel & rim on the car and how he put them on without tire irons. Note taking them off Royce commented that if they were old and very hard a hack saw can be used (don’t hit the rim) to cut the tire. If you would like a copy of that posting – drop me an e-mail and I will send it to you. Just click on my name and my e-mail address is the 3rd line down.

And the MTFCA also has an excellent video on mounting the clinchers – that shows the older style wide flap being used if I recall correctly.

Good luck and don’t start the job if you are already frustrated – it is not normally listed on anyone’s chart as one of the top ten ways to relax.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn-Monroeville OH on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 07:50 pm:

Tinkering, you'll find just about anywhere you look the prices will be pretty similar. Maybe $10 difference at most, if at all. They're all made/come from the same manufacturer, so no doubt the wholesale price is the same to any vendor. It's what they want to try to make is what might make the small difference. I do know Lang's does a great job standing behind "their" tires when something goes wrong. Don't ask me how I know!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tinkering on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 08:56 pm:

Hap 1915,
Thanks a ton for all that great info, and the links to the discussions etc. I had already come across Philip and his garbage bag trick. Amazon has a set of 3 irons for $36 CAD. I might order them some other time. What I have is an un-restored stake truck so I am not too worried about the paint on the rims but I will use a rim protector of some kind; probably try a milk jug handle and flap first.

The two front tires are flat. One is cracked all to beans. I just need to pull off a quick repair to make the T drive-able in and out of the garage etc. I might try a couple of screw drivers, leaving the wheel jacked up on the vehicle. I hope to be able to pull just the outside bead and slip the tube in and out of there. When I get new parts and prettier rims I might try those irons from Bud Jonas.
Thanks again!!
Tinkering


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tinkering on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 09:02 pm:

Tim Wrenn,
I saw a few different prices on ebay. Firestone 30 1/2 for $280 CAD delivered. I saw another brand last year on a different site for $235 or something. I'll still shop to save $40 or $50 bucks:-)
Thanks for the great info!
Tinkering


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 11:47 pm:

DON'T use screwdrivers!! You will puncture the tube and probably damage the tire bead (in case it's still usable) and maybe even the rim. Tire irons are readily available--in fact, if there's a motorcycle shop nearby, they usually have some nice ones for about $16--well worth it!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn-Monroeville OH on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 12:19 pm:

Tink...do be careful when shopping/buying on ebay a.k.a. "Tbay"...while there are often great buys to be found-such as my '20 runabout-- often times people tend to over inflate prices and people actually do buy them! Yes you're right, it does pay to shop around.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joe Schrepfer on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 12:53 pm:

If you look back on June 8th 2016 of the forum and you have the means there is posting about an aid to changing tires. Excuse my computer ignorance, I do not know how to post it here.


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