Well, we come back from a family reunion to find a forest fire going 5 miles away. Had a knock on the door, Sheriff telling us to be ready to evacuate next time they knock on the door. OK, what to take? Photos, computer, IRS files, the pets, clothes and meds. But there's only two of us and two modern vehicles (which we will need to get around and to work) but that means leaving the old stuff behind Not just our cars (which right now only one runs), but everything else.
I guess it really is just stuff. And I suppose this eliminates having to figure out what to do with it all when I can't enjoy it anymore. . .
Right now things seem calm, and the TV says to check on the internet for updates. Great, the internet is too slow to download their large graphic webpages, so I drove down to the main road, which is blocked at our road's intersection, to see if it's OK to go to bed here.
Fortunately I stop on this side of the roadblock, as I find out, once we leave, we can't go back in. And they will knock on our door if we need to evacuate, so guess we'll hit the hay now.
Talk about a feeling of helplessness!
Just had to share. I hope they get a handle on it and we don't have to deal with this. We had a similar scare a few years ago, but then they weren't blocking access, so either this is more dangerous, our, since the dam spillway evacuation fiasco,t they've changed the rules!
Updates as we know them--if I can get to the internet!
One of the disadvantages of living in California near forest or grass lands is the constant threat of fire.
I spent the night in Red Bluff where it was 107 degrees F when I pulled off the road yesterday afternoon.
It was nice to see Lake Shasta full - but that won't last.
I hope you don't lose your car(s) or other property if you need to evacuate.
Here, in far north eastern MN most of us have Wildfire Sprinkler Systems that have saved countless homes and accompanying property:
They also design systems in CA and elsewhere. Of course we are blessed with countless lakes and easy water access in this remote region. Some fires have been horrific.
My home, Model T, and other items are so-protected.
I have been watching local internet news closely the past several days. Hard to believe how many (half dozen to a dozen per day in our area!) fires there have been. The local fire crews so far have done a remarkable job knocking them down quickly. However, the site I have been following does not report much in your area, so I was not aware of it.
It is almost unbelievable how incredibly careless people have become in recent decades.
Is this the Bangor fire in Butte county? About a thousand acres and ten homes burned so far. (I looked for it online.)
Be careful! You and your Linda! Always remember, stuff is just stuff. You two are irreplaceable!
David, We hope everything works out to the best for you. You're in our thoughts and prayers that this will not affect you. This happened to friends of ours that live in CA a few years ago (they own a collection of Ford V-8's), thankfully they were sparred, as we hope this is the case for you.
David -You're in our thoughts and prayers! Sure hope things take a favorable turn as Dan K. just said. You've probably already though of this, but with all of the worry & frustration, maybe not,..... be sure to gather up all important medications and put in a "kit" with the important things you've gathered up in case you actually have to make a "quick exit". I guess this is superstition, but usually, when you take time to "plan for the worst and hope (and pray) for the best", all those "preparations will be for nothing, "AND THAT'LL BE GREAT", right? Hoping for all the best for you folks,.......harold
Oops! Now that I re-read your post David,.... I see that you did already think of the meds,.....sorry,.....harold
If it isn't the floods it's the fires.
Wishing you the Best.
David...praying for you and your family that y'all will be okay and the fire misses your place. So scary, and seems to be the new normal these days out there.
I went to the link & viewed the video.
Interesting but misleading in representing that system as being a way to save the lives of wildfire firefighters - actually found that portion of the video offensive.
Most wildfire battles - while fought to save structures & personal property - take place far away from any structure that could be utilized for shelter.
They are issued temporary fire shelters to deploy as a last resort.
Having visited Yarnell, AZ - having seen the memorial to the (19) Hotshots who died in June of 2013 - knowing how & where they died ......
For a company to make a promotional video & capitalize on the risk wildfire firefighters take in their duties to try & sell their product is offensive.
Our concerns, thoughts, and prayers all are with you. Some of us can only begin to imagine what you and others are going through. We've heard up here of guys setting their garages afire with 'dud' fireworks, but suspect Califunny is more regulated. Unfortunately, people are only 'sometimes smart'...
Many thanks for all your support. As of 8 am, the fires is at 1,500 acres, 10 homes lost, 6 injuries. We are still under evacuation Warning. I've got the car and the truck half-loaded with what I think we'd need to survive, and most of our photographs.
We have a friend getting married this afternoon, but if the order is still in place, if we go, we won't be allowed back home. I know, it's a little thing, but I'd rather be here and saving more stuff to go than not be here. Right now I don't even see smoke, and so far don't hear the helicopters, so maybe the "updates" aren't current. Can't tell, as the information web pages aren't dial-up compatible (that seems dumb) and the telephone number is constantly busy.
It's very calm here right now, no wind even.
More as I know!
First, I hope and pray for your safety. If your house and cars are insured, leave them. Take the two modern vehicles and your check books, charge cards, insurance papers, enough clothes for a few days, and all important documents and if you have room, your computer. If you have animals, take them. Evacuate. Everything else will be covered by insurance. You will have gotten out the most important things.
We had to evacuate in 2003 and although the fire came within 100' of our house and garage, nothing on our property was burnt or damaged. We were very fortunate, I hope you will be also.
Meant to add, I've thought of the sprinklers on the roof, but we're on well water and the minute we lose power, we lose water. Oh well.
I think this is the Wall Fire.
Heard at 7:00 am this morning it doubled overnight from 1000 to 2000 acres with zero containment.
Advisory evacuations for some areas have become mandatory.
Hoping and praying the best for you!
Praying for mercy, grace, safety & wisdom for you and those impacted by the fires.
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David, I hope and pray for the best outcome. There was a mandatory evacuation near my home recently. The Goodwin fire near Prescott, AZ. As in your case, once one left their home, you were not allowed to return unless you had a police escort.
Well, it's at 2,000 acres and moving north east and south west, putting us in the middle. Still at warning level. Still packing stuff up here too.
Earlier this picture was posted online. Listed as being south of Oroville. Sure hope these were not restored trucks. We are all praying it misses you David.
We were under evacuation for wild fires, living in a "barn" the officers did not realize it was a home and did not evacuate us. During the fire while we waited and watched for it to crest a hill on 3 seperate occasions we had trucks BACK up our driveway and left as soon as they realized someone was home. That fire burned around 150,000 acres and was days trying to get any containment
We were given0 minutes to evacuate, I could see the flames above us, left lots of stuff I meant to take. Are at a friend's house in South Oroville, the fire is Huge,covers a huge area almost 3K ACRES. I really don't see how our house will surive, but they claim no new burned homes yet More in the AM--I forgot my cell phone, so no way to reach us. Sorry!
I was afraid of that. Been looking at the news pages all afternoon. I finally found your streets on the fire map.
Keep your chins up, try to relax. There is nothing you can do at this point but wait. Stuff is all just stuff.
Damned right I prayed for you just now.
The last update I saw puts the fire at almost 3000 acres. Buildings destroyed has not been updated for nearly two days. Containment expected in about a week.
It may be a couple days before David can even find out how badly they have been hit. Their road is almost entirely inside the fire area by now according to the last updates a few hours ago.
If anyone else wants to look at some reports of the mess? I use this site for some of our foothills news:
That link should take you directly to this fire incident page, which probably won't be updated now till after sunrise.
Hoping and praying for the best for David and Linda Dewey.
No matter where you live there is always a way that Mother nature can take your stuff away, Fire/tornado/hurricane/earthquake/volcano etc. As long as we don't loose the things that are really important, Lives and loved ones, then thank god for that. It does hurt to lose stuff but we can recover I will pray for you and yours and maybe just a small miracle to spare your stuff.
We are glad that you are safe. We will continue to pray for minimal damage for you and others and that life can start returning back to normal soon.
Hang in there, this too shall pass.
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David, thoughts and prayers going your way. At least you guys are safe for now. Hang in there and keep us posted.
David, if your property has good ingress/ egress and fairly defensible with safety for the firefighters, there is enough resources that they should be should able to park an engine or two at your house. Usually when a fast moving fire starts in light fuels, there is very limited resources on hand in a chaotic fast changing environment. Day 3, lots of stuff is on hand as well as a PLAN, wether offensive or defensive.
Thoughts are with you.
Having been thru a few evacs, you are never really prepared. You think there was something more you could have done.
Family members, pets and mementos. Everything else is just stuff.
Prayers for all, evacuated and the fighters.
here is a link to the CalFire site
The evacuation orders just seem to expand. I can't believe how large it's become. One map shows a small hot spot right next to my garage with the '16 in it and all the parts to fix up Barney as well as all my car parts. It is wearing me down wondering and worrying. Tonight the containment is at 25% but some 4K have been evacuated, or are under evacuation warnings.
We are lucky enough to have friends who will let us stay with them for a while. Tomorrow maybe we can figure out what to do, go shopping and get some more clothes. If it weren't for friends we'd be on cots in the Red Cross shelter, and we're both too old to sleep on cots!
Well, bedtime,you guys are great. TAke care
David & Linda Dewey
Sleep well. Take it day by day. Deal with the losses later.
It is amazing how much of a model T may survive a fire (depends on a lot of variable factors). Even if the '16 T is burned, it may still be nearly as restorable as it was before.
Still, so very disheartening.
Been praying for you and family. I'm sorry. I've been there (Katrina). We waited about six weeks before we could go back, only to inspect and haul off, and six months before we could move back to a restored home. We were fortunate to get back that soon. But wherever we lived, we were at peace together.
David...still praying. Miracles do happen. God Bless you and your family.
David good thoughts and prayers
David, we are all hoping for the best for you and your family. Here is SW Florida we are surrounded by woods. The county fire department has said on the record that they will not put their firefighters at risk to fight a fire when the house is closely surrounded by brush and trees. We too are on well water, and I'm having a whole-house standby generator installed in early August. We have also had a metal roof installed which does very good things to our home insurance policy. No guarantees, but we are doing all that we can.
David, Hope for the best----I have a daughter in Lakeport not heard from. Hope she is OK.
Paul, not aware of any fires over near Lakeport.
Just got word from a friend who has a friend with some clout, and he took a tour. very little to no fire intrusion north of Forbestown road. If this is true, then we're ok. Probably won't get to check it out until tomorrow.
David I pray that to be true. Please let us know as soon as you can. Family and friends are all we really have that matters. It sounds like you are blessed that way.
David, I've been following this for the past couple of days, but had not yet posted to say that I am praying for you to have minimal damage. Glad that you and family are safe and with friends. That helps a lot, not only for shelter but also the moral support. Looking forward to your next update. Hope it is a good one.
Hoping for the best for you, and all in your neighborhood.
I know an area near Lakeport got hit really hard last year I think (could have been two years ago). It was a bad one, with a small town nearly wiped out. I haven't heard of anything significant in that area yet this year. The area around Clearlake has been hit really hard by fires about four of the past ten years. I have driven through several of their burn areas in past years. Grasslands usually get worse fires than heavily treed areas. I hope the trees in David's area helped some.
David...just for curiosity's sake....do they do controlled burns in your area to burn off the dry underbrush?
Finally got a message my daughter is fine just long hours at Santa Rosa Keizer working, Have grand children and great grand children in Willits
Much cooler here about 70 for a high today, hope California cools down. I could not take the high temperatures.
David feeling for you sir we got firee around here to.
Only thing on my list are the irreplacable items
I know it be loosing a life time collection.
Just be safe and I will be sending good thoughts
David Dewey: I wonder if the guy that has the two pickup will try and restore them now. Boy it is a shame to see all the damage it has done,a dn there is a lot to come yet .We are lucky here in Redding that we have not had(KNOCK ON wood) ANY BIG ONES YET.
Hi Guys 11pm here, last update is 40% containment and PG&E are busy fixing power poles and lines,so might get to check it out tomorrow. Bill, don't know who that guy is, looks pretty sad in the pics. Some areas had no chance, as there was a "fire tornado" going, there's video on the 'net of it. That was very close to my place, which is why I figured I was a goner.
new lines, maybe new phone line with better internet??
Bob, yes, the lifetime of stuff. Now I hope both outbuildings are OK as Barney is in one and all the restored parts and upholstery for him are in another--the one where a hot spot showed on one map. Well, time to sleep and see what the sun shines on tomorrow. Thank you for all your support!
Thinking of you David, from half way around the world (we are waiting for snow!)
I am sorry to hear about your situation.
I am praying for you and your neighbors lives and property. May God give protection and wisdom to the firefighters.
David - Been checking for your updates regularly all thru' Sunday and Monday, and,...."PRAISE THE LORD",.... this is the first one that really sounds encouraging! The first encouraging thing I noticed this morning is that you posted on another thread that was strictly Model T related, which I took as an indication that maybe ol' Daves mind is at least occupied, (at least somewhat) with something other than the fire! Thank you for the update, and rest assured, there are more of us "T" folks praying for you both and thinking of you than you'll ever know.
You know, I think sometimes these worrisome things happen, partly to get us to realize what's really important in life. Trouble is,....sometimes good people get hurt in the process, and that's the part I don't understand. At any rate, thanks for the update David, and let us all know as soon as you know for sure that your place (and even ol' Barney and his "parts") are okay. And tell your friends that you and Linda are staying with, "THANKS", for taking care of one of our Model T brothers,.......harold
Ditto to all Harold S said.
David: Let us know in the morning if you are ok, and your house didn't get burnt.
What Harold said. I bet the forum has been getting twice the normal visits, everyone hoping to hear some good news about your house, David.
I keep looking and wondering. Wondering and looking.
I hope this is a case of "no news is good news". Recent updates said that residents in David's and Linda's area were being let back in. PG&E (Northern California's primary electric company) was predicting full power would be restored to much of their area by (sometime) tonight. So. I am HOPING they could even be back home. I know that it is very likely that their landline home phone service will take several days to be restored. And I also know (because David D has said so several times on this forum) that there is no cell phone service where his house is. So IF he is home, he may not be able to communicate for a day or more.
All I can do at this point is wonder, and hope. And check in here hoping for good news.
Dick, so should I keep up the suspense??
Our house is FINE!! ALL the garages are FINE! Despite what was posted on the internet map sites, the fire, in our area, was kept on the other side of the highway!!!! We are SO fortunate! Thank you for all your support and concern. We will go home tomorrow! That will be so good!
But, in exploring around, areas I haven't looked at for at least a year, I realize that I have a LOT of cleaning up to do, lots of dead manzanita brush to get rid of--maybe some artists will want it for projects. No, it's too twisted to make T body wood!!
Well, it has been a long day. After finding our house was OK,we had to go to a restoration planning meeting for the local Theatre where we are planning the restoration of the pipe organ chambers to be done by end of September. I've got a lot of planning and work to get done in a short time! Why do I get myself into these things???
And talk about timing on the posts.
David, that is great news about your house and garages being fine! Best wishes on the Theatre restoration work.
If anyone has doubt about the power of prayer.......
So glad your place is okay David, as Hal said, the power of prayer.
Praise the Lord David! Prayers DO get answered! Now we keep praying for those less fortunate & also that you & your property remain safe.
Great news David; Why do I get myself into these things??? My wife says I get myself into similar things because I am a soft touch when someone needs help...as long as they are not asking for MONEY!
I'm glad things turned out for the better. It still was an ordeal for you to go through.
Thanks for keeping us posted.
Whew! All our prayers have been answered. And something good did become of your ordeal: you've reassessed the brush situation on your property. All of us in the "100+ degree belt" need to continually do that. Keep rehydrating !
GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!! This year I have been prioritizing brush and lawn clean up although our climate is in the sixties with dew in the mornings. Pulled out one tree next to my shop and keeping the lawn low cut can not hurt with a million camper fires a mile from home. A fifty horse tractor with a heavy duty loader helps.
Very happy for you David
Thank you for the good news, David ! And thank the Lord and thank the firemen for making the news so good !
So pleeeeezed! It really is a comfort to know so many prayers were given, heard, and answered! We are all provided so many blessings that we all should stop and marvel. Definitely not an 'accident'!!!
Great to find your house and garages all there. We had a scare yesterday. The sky was filled with smoke and ashes. The fire started along interstate 8. They said a spark from a catalytic converter started it. Five houses were evacuated and the interstate was closed for a few hours causing massive traffic jams on the surface streets for commuters coming home. The fire was about 5 miles from us but the wind was blowing toward us. Our great fire departments and Cal-fire got things under control and the 5 houses were saved. No smoke this morning.
Things are quieting down here now, no more police at every intersection, helicopters overhead (taking water from the little lake near our place), fire trucks everywhere. Kinda nice, but boy, do we owe a lot to those guys, they did a great job knocking this thing down, and the weather the past two days helped some.
Why we left (sorry pics may be blurry)
A little farther down the road
Down at the main road, some 2 miles from our house--later on even this location was closed off.
Here's a pic from the evacuation center some 8 miles from the fire.
And driving to a friend's house, I'm some 9 miles away--mind you the fire at this point is about 2/3 as big as it finally got.
At the turn off to our street, here's the remains of what was a house, the other side of the street (my side) is untouched.
So happy for you and your wife David!
Great news, Dave. We've been praying and wondering how you were going to come out.
Glad to hear your all right and safe! Ed and i were thinking we should ship you a case of canned sucker's!! Bud.
-Bud & Ed-
You guys are just as cynical as I am. After those helpless feelings, cynicism and humor is a good release. And David - That pipe organ is going to sound extra special!
I'm so glad that you and your wife are safe and very thankful that your home and cars were spared.
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I know total destruction by fire was your worst case scenario, but how did you make out as far as peripheral damage from smoke, ash, vandalism,etc ? Hopefully you came out 100% unscathed.
I transported a Model T from Oroville, WA a few years back.
I kept in touch with the owner - a couple kids set a wildfire that burned his fence - killed several trees - seared a part of his modular home - scorched an early road grader he had as a decorative piece.
So far, OK, Was a bit worried about Vandalism, but so far we're OK--However, I haven't been up to my upper garages (where Barney and the other Ts are kept) for a few days; I expect there will be some "explorers" checking out stuff to "find."
Jim, Those things happen, How big is Oroville, WA anyway?
In this area we have had several brush fires in the last two weeks. They keep saying it is Catalytic converters causing it because they start next to a highway. If this is really the cause (which I question). It would seem that the fires put more emissions into the air than the converters take out. And it is quite dangerous to life and property as well.
Yes, Converters can cause fires, they get mighty hot. This morning there is a fire in Mariposa county, hope my cousin is OK.
Norman, I would bet a lot of them are from cigarettes.
Situation not too good in British Columbia 166 wildfires out of control with 37000 folks evacuated including entire towns!
My daughter just sent mail from Lake Port, a fire off 101 and HI way 20 called the great fire barely contained is now burning. That's over the mountain from David I think.
Paul, If it is near 101, that is nearly a two hour drive from David D's place.
I have driven that hwy 20/101 corridor many (MANY) times. Hwy 20 around Clearlake is a nasty fire area that has had several large acreage and destructive fires over the years. A lot of areas with some trees, and huge amounts of wild grasslands. Some hilly areas and small canyons difficult to fight fires in as well as winds a lot of the time.
I think relative newcomer Gale Bray lives in that area?
What causes these fires? So many things. Arson and carelessness, along with cigarettes, top the list. Lightening is the most common natural cause. But those usually start on mountain tops, and mostly in areas with few if any buildings or people. Because fire likes to go up hills, about half of lightening fires burn themselves out within a day (I have been told this by Cal-Fire personnel). Most of the other half (in our modern times) are usually hit by air attack and doused within hours. Their monitoring and attack plans vary dependent on where the fire is located (mountain tops versus canyons and valleys, and what if any people or buildings are threatened, or not).
Catalytic converters certainly can and do start fires if a person is fool enough to drive into tall grass with a vehicle not especially modified to prevent such a trouble. The catalytic converter and some piping has to be surrounded, encased by cooling air space and insulation to protect the grass. Or the entire system rerouted and moved for the same purpose.
The Central Valley of Califunny is another place where huge grasslands and winds can cause disastrous wildfires. My dad grew up in Northeastern Nevada cattle country. There, ranchers and everybody fought wildfires. So he learned about it from a very young age. A bit over twenty years ago, he and I had run some service calls in Stockton CA and were headed back to the shop in San Jose CA, driving my old pickup. Headed down highway 5 (runs down the middle of the Central Valley) we both spotted some ominous signs in the distance. Smoke was just starting up, and flames becoming visible on the shoulder of the highway. What we could see was a Jeep was stopped about a half mile further ahead. It was that season. really tall dry grass, and high winds (TV weather said 45 mph). It was a short distance to a big old barn and a farmhouse, all surrounded by tall grass. We didn't happen to have our cell phone with us (my wife and I shared one in those days). By the time we pulled up and stopped, the fire was still small (about a twenty foot square, but starting to grow fast. My dad and I jumped out, he grabbed the shovel out of the back of my pickup (we had not planned on any digging that day, so I only had the one that stayed in my truck for unexpected digs), and started turning the soil onto the fire along the leading front. I grabbed an old jacket I carried for emergencies, and used it to beat down the remaining flames behind him and occasionally ran to any place that was trying to jump ahead in front of him.
I think it must have taken us all of two, maybe three, minutes to put out the fire. Just as we stood up to survey, our accomplishment, the fire truck pulled up. We got some very nice compliments from the firemen.
Why do I brag about one of my past shining moments? Why, for the Paul Harvey moment, of course.
Once done talking with the firemen, we got back into the pickup, and drove to where the Jeep was stopped. The driver of the jeep was still sitting inside, so we asked if they had troubles and did they need any help. They had their cell phone, and were just waiting for the friend they had called to arrive. The Jeep had been making a horrible noise going down the highway and then a huge BANG followed by quiet coasting to the shoulder. It was a red hot piece of their connecting rod that had started the fire.
And now, you know, the rest of the story.
Wayne, being a fireman we never mind turning the rig around and not working up a sweat. Being an officer I go direct to scene most of the time for assesment. Had a car fire one winter. Parked right up close to the garage. To the passeger side was a huge 30ft motor home. We had about 4 inches of snow on the ground. I knew the truck was about 7 minutes out so I found a 5 gallon bucket and started dumping snow on it. The flames were coming out from the hood and wheel wells. The interior was on fire as well. I shoveled and shoveled. By the time the truck showed up I had the yard pretty well cleaned up of snow. Didnt save the car but no damage to garage or motor home. Unlike you most dont want to get involved in things like that. They are in a hurry to get somewhere and dont have time. We dont have any grass land but lots of swamps around the lakes. We have 9 lakes in our area. Cornfields are always dangerous in the fall. I dont know how you guys do it out in Califunny. Every year floods and fire and quakes.
David I am glad to hear you faired well. Prayers do get answered