Upon leaving Hardees in Huntsville AL today, I passed a station that sells non-ethanol gas. WOW! Are prices this high everywhere?
If so, is it worth the price?
In our area, I'm finding 'mid-grade' (91 octane) at 45-50 cents per gallon higher.
That's the price we pay in the Twin Cities for non-oxy premium.
Its use is limited by law; you can't put it in a modern car and it is carried by a small number stations. Subsequently, the limited supply and the limited demand and the fact that it is premium keeps the price high.
About 50 cents a gallon higher than ethanol mix here.
Ours are about 30 to 32 cents difference.
Beggars the question: why bother?
In Virginia it's 50-70 cents a gallon more. But i'm glad to have it.
Picked up some non-oxygenated premium (91 octane) yesterday at $2.87/gallon up here. Mostly using it for boat gas as the Model T is already full.
I'm with Charlie. Why bother? I use 10% with no ill effects that I've noticed. As long as you don't let it sit for months, it's OK.
Steve, Do you find your car is hard to start when hot after sitting for ten minutes or so? Seems like my carb gets real warm from the engine. Might the Ethanol boil away when hot?
Cheapest gas in Danville CA $2.79, most are over $3. There is NO non-ethanol gas in the San Francisco Bay area, 100 miles to the nearest non-ethanol.
$ 3.59 a gallon here in northern Michigan, one party store and one marina gas dock carry it near me, otherwise it's about 20 miles away to get the non ethanol 91 octane around here
That seems high. Non-ethanol gas is about 50-60 cents more on average than its 10% ethanol equivalent.
Why bother trying to explain why ethanol is a problem anymore. That's the question.
All the marinas & airfields up in the Pacific Northwest have clear gasoline only, from what I understand - usually 30+ cents a gallon more.
"Do you find your car is hard to start when hot after sitting for ten minutes or so?" No, my car usually starts easier when it's warmed up.
I paid $2.65 about three weeks ago.
As Layden says there isn't any non ethanol gas for sale here in central Wackafornia. In the Fresno area the 91 octane gas with 10 % ethanol is $3.35 a gallon, and Jerry Brown's gas tax increase hasn't even started yet !
It's about 50 cents higher than low grade, and 20 cents higher than E10 premium.
I burn non-ethanol premium in my small engines that sit a lot. Also burn it in my truck, which requires premium fuel anyway, and gets noticeably better fuel mileage with non-oxy.
In the T's I burn whatever is cheapest.
No politics, eh? So this is energy independence?...synthetic fuel, pipelines and fracking will give us lower fuel cost?
Personally I don't waste my time looking because nothing I own will be hurt by the modern fuel except the fuel pump in my 48 and that was taken care off when I rebuilt the pump.
The grandson just started the Honda power washer that has sat since last fall! I think there is a lot of politics involved as to who see's what! I see by the wind turbines the wind is out of the north east and a payment will come any day now.Bud.
No politics here Bud, just observation. My 2001 GMC does not like the 10% stuff at all. I only use it about 5K per year and every year I have to run top end cleaner through it. I have checked fuel pressure, cat converters and everything else. The issue is pulling even a small trailer with the T it won't stay hooked up in OD. Once I spray the top cleaner through it, it is fine for about a year and will stay hooked up in OD for ever except on steep grades. It causes deposits to build on the intake valve stems. And I have verified it isn't blowby causing it. Have even changed the PCV valve with no change. It makes plenty of power when you put it to the floor, it just doesn't respond the the tiny inputs of the cruise control and once the speed decays by 5 mph it downshifts.
I understand the cost of non ethanol being high due to supply and demand. I also understand that the auto manufactures changed to stainless lines and some other changes to offset the "no difference" fuel.
All of my two stroke stuff is now 100 octane avgas with 2 stroke oil. Avgas isn't an option in the pickup due to the catylitic converters.
If it so good for use and so wonderful, maybe it's time to end the subsidies for it?
2.35 to 2.79 for 87 octane in New Orleans area
Gary,I wish the auto makers would change to stainless brake lines!Bud.
Kenneth, that should have been law 35 years ago.
Bill non-ethanol is 2.499 in Ardmore.
That's about the price here in the Pacific Northwest.
I don't buy it for the Model Ts, but do insist on it for my chainsaws!
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About $2.65 last week in Bloomington and up North. All small engines, the Vette, and boat are using this stuff. Had to many bad experiences with ethanol crap.
In My model Ts I am not worried, But my 1971 Ford Bronco or any other "Newer" car or my 1974 Cub lo boy 154 I do have concerns about the effects on the die cast parts.
6.00 per gal here in Lake/Mendocino Counties. I buy it for my chainsaw. Only one station carries it in Mendocino County which is 45 miles from me. Use reg gas in my T and my '48 8N. My ex has used low octane reg gas in his 2001 Silverado and it has 350,000 miles on it with no rebuilds.
It is $2.90 in Maryland, but the octane rating is like super hi-test.