John Schoening Estate in MN

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2017: John Schoening Estate in MN
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Lindberg on Saturday, July 22, 2017 - 11:26 pm:

John Collected allot of great T stuff.
https://www.midwestauctions.com/lundeenauction/lundeen_october_7.htm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, July 22, 2017 - 11:36 pm:

Looks like a good one. Too bad it's Hershey week.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The Head Light Lens Guy in California on Sunday, July 23, 2017 - 06:47 am:

If I had, money/time/space I would go for the panel c-cab.

Matthew


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Sunday, July 23, 2017 - 08:21 am:

It tired me out just reading the sale bill! Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Sunday, July 23, 2017 - 08:45 am:

I agree with you Kenneth, but this line makes me want to take a vacation to Mn.
"We apologize for the minimal photos and descriptions at this time, more info coming as we set-up the auction. No Buyer’s Premium or sales tax. Plenty of parking at neighboring parking lots."


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Codman on Monday, July 24, 2017 - 03:40 pm:

He has what I would have had if I could have afforded it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Lindberg on Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 04:27 pm:

Coming up this weekend I will let you guys know how they sell.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darryl Bobzin on Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 05:46 pm:

Now I just need to win the power ball tonight!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By FreighTer Jim on Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 05:54 pm:

I have to pick up a 1930 Franklin in Forest Lake, Minnesota in the next week or so .......


FJ


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 08:26 pm:

Matt,

If you get a chance, please let us know if the Erickson Power Fork Lift SNFA87 is powered by a Model A Ford engine, Model B Ford engine (has a fuel pump on the right side of the engine and/or a block off plate), or some other engine.

Looking at the photos I believe it likely is a Model A Ford engine and transmission used to power the fork lift. But I cannot see the size or other details of the engine.





A lot of nice cars, trucks and tools.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Lindberg on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 10:26 pm:

I do like that little fork truck, I will check it out for you, maybe I will bring it home with me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen- Central Minnesota on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 08:30 am:

It amazes me how to w many Model T guys are out there. I've been involved with the hobby for almost twenty years. I've been an active member of MTFCA and MTFCI chapters here in Minnesota. I know hundreds of antique car enthusiasts right here in Minnesota. But, I still keep finding long time old car folks that I haven't met.

I never had the pleasure of meeting John Schoening. He clearly had a neat collection, but even living right in my back yard, we never managed to cross paths. I never even heard of him before I saw the auction sale bill a few weeks ago. I wish I didn't have to work tomorrow. I'd probably let that HCCT follow me home from the auction.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 09:00 am:

I'll avoid this one, as the timing would be terrible for me to bring anything else home right before I need to rearrange everything for winter storage.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeff cordes on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 09:40 am:

I'm with Derek on this one. I have way too many barns that are at capacity already. I better stay home.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darel J. Leipold on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 11:41 am:

John would be at the Scott County Tractor group showing off a steam traction engine. At one time about 1966 he had a home in Orono and stored a Case engine there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Lindberg on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 05:34 pm:

Here is some pictures




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Lindberg on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 05:36 pm:

More pictures



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 05:46 pm:

Matt,

Thanks for posting to photos. Did you happen to notice if the engine and transmission in the fork lift were Model A Ford or something else?

And did anything follow you home?

Respectfully submitted,

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 06:22 pm:

Too if only me the engine looks like a model A because the water pump looks to have 4 sides and 4 bolts on the mount on the head?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Lindberg on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 07:22 pm:

Here is a sold price list
Rumely $20,000
Huber tractor $6000
IH slope nose $13,000
23 depot hack Model T $10,600
16 c cab delivery Model T $15,500
22 speedster Model T $17,000
29 model AA fuel delivery $6,600
28 Model AA Grain Truck $6,100
29 Model AA Dump Truck $5700
30 model AA stake bed $5400
Model TT stake bed $5600
Model TT Dump truck $5700
Model T Roadster Pickup $10000
Model T touring $8350
38 ford dump truck $5250
41 ford flat bed $2000
Erickson fork lift $900
Many of the vehicles were not running but could have been easily. also many of them did not have titles. I did not bring any home.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Lindberg on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 07:28 pm:

Here are a couple more of the lift I believe it was model A




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay Couture - Mahtomedi MN on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 10:02 pm:

Engine was Model A for sure, no fuel pump opening, 4 bolt water pump, zenith carburetor. It has a 1930 stock radiator and shell. The hydraulic pump is driven by an additional belt on the front of the engine.

Steering is done by a single rear wheel, and controlled using a large lever on the left. There are two(!) extra handles welded on, they must be needed to get full steering without bending over too far.

It has a Model A (car) clutch and transmission. The clutch is controlled by a pedal/plate on the floor. It would be easy to stand on the pedal, thus keeping the machine in neutral while raising or lowering the forks. The transmission is connected to the drive shaft by a vertical chain drive. The drive axle looked to be re-purposed truck, with wide brake drums. The make is unknown to me. Auctioneer said it had been running, turned over but they were unable to start it.
Lift-1
Lift-2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Duey_C on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 10:24 pm:

Thank you for posting prices and pics Matt! It's appreciated!
Greg F and I were texting the other night and he mentioned you. :-) He's a good guy. Funny man. :-)
Rumely G? for 20. Yep.
The Huber for 6. Love the model of that tractor. FU. Hehehe! ;-)
The $900 Erickson did have a set of forks! Is that thing (conglomeration) a stand-up type like a Namco or an ECXX Clark fork lift?
Interesting piece. That "doofy" thing would've fit in good here at my place.
Hap, can you tell from the pics IF there's a fuel pump spot on that block?
If I didn't dislike driving for two hours and standing around at an auction all day, I woulda been there. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John E Cox on Sunday, October 08, 2017 - 12:48 am:

What did the D2 Caterpillar go for?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Lindberg on Sunday, October 08, 2017 - 07:59 am:

I did not watch the crawlers sell, sorry.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Sunday, October 08, 2017 - 08:58 am:

If this is the TT stake bed for $5600, someone got a really nice truck !!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Lindberg on Sunday, October 08, 2017 - 05:32 pm:

Yes it is and the dump truck is right next to it. I thought all of the TT's and AA's were reasonable but the rest of the T's were on the high side.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Monday, October 09, 2017 - 08:49 pm:

Matt,

Thank you so much for the additional details.

Duey,

As Jay and others pointed out it is Model A style engine.

Below is a 1928-1931 Model A Ford engine from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1931_Ford_Model_A_roadster_engine.JPG Note the BLACK oil return pipe / tube that terminates near the front lower part of the block. The Model A engines have that the Model B engines do not.



Below is the fork lift engine:



Below is an illustration from e-bay of a Model B engine note the fuel pump would not fit if there was an oil return pipe/tube like the Model A engine has.



And as several pointed out the Model A has a 4 bolt water pump and the Model B has a 3 bolt water pump.

Note the older I get the more a fork lift etc. looks better and better.

Respectfully submitted,

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