How NOT to navigate the back roads

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2017: How NOT to navigate the back roads
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 10:01 am:

Going to the club meeting last night would have been a 2 hour drive on main roads. But I decided to explore some of the county and township roads, and found my navigation device inadequate. The Delorme atlas looks like it should be great for this, but it's not. The first glitch was the road which on the map looked like the way to go, but turned out to be a dead end. Well, no big deal. Only about ten minutes lost. The really big problem with the atlas is that only the main roads are labeled. For example, the sign I just passed said I'm on Road K. But which line on the map is Road K? Who knows? With several unmarked roads shown, any one of them could be J, K, L, M, or whatever. I had started early, but still arrived at the meeting almost an hour late due to a lot of needless wandering.

Next I'll try the KDOT county maps and the Google satellite view, but I expect eventually I'll resort to purchasing an electronic navigation device.

By the way, I'm happy to report that Bud and Karen Redding are recovering and were at the meeting. Their experience is a recent example of the reason I try to avoid driving a Model T on high speed highways.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Lay,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Lancaster Ca. on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 11:07 am:

You drive 2 1/2 hours to a club meeting? That's 5 hours round trip plus the meeting? The nearest model T club around me is an hour away by freeway and I whine about that. You the man. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 11:11 am:

Steve, any update on progress with the touring car or the runabout?

Inquiring minds need to know! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 11:47 am:

Scott, in a sparsely populated state like Kansas a lot of things are farther away than in more crowded places.

Mark, the status of the roadster is body raised and waiting for me to pull the engine.




The touring engine has been waiting for me to receive the 14-24 tap and die which arrived in yesterday's mail.

On the original subject, I can report that Google satellite fails on at least two counts: 1 It also shows roads that don't exist or can't be used; 2 While it does show numbers for county and township roads, they don't match the names and numbers actually used on the road signs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 11:53 am:

Steve, I can tell your posts by the title alone!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Rogers - South of the Adirondacks on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 12:03 pm:

Steve, I don't wish to intrude but I am contemplating a similar engine rebuild and am wondering how much you have invested in this engine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 01:13 pm:

Steve: I was with my sister when Google started insisting she make a right turn NOW! Doing so would have caused us to end up in one of the many lakes along alligator alley!. Stay away from Google in UN-familiar areas!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Doolittle on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 01:24 pm:

Garmin rules.....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 01:29 pm:

Tim, with a scat crank, new pistons, cam, reverse drum, and other costly goodies, the total was a little over $5500.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean Yoder, Iowa City IA. on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 01:52 pm:

John , I use Garmin it shows roads that are no longer there also😝.
I also Cary Delnorme atlass & AAA maps. Nothing seems to be up to date


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 02:17 pm:


The KDOT county maps are excellent, very detailed, but even those have a few age-produced errors. They have the road names in the margins, which is not always convenient, but at least they're the names actually used. Unfortunately not all state departments of transportation have maps up to this standard. Some of the most tourist-intensive states have the worst maps. (Are you listening, Colorado?)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dallas landers on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 04:26 pm:

Steve, my wife is a 911 dispatcher. She took a call from a lady that was following her navigation device. The lady was crying and lost. They put in a new section of US 20 a few months earier. Her device told her to turn around and take the old route, then as soon as she turned on the old route it would say turn around. All of this was in the same mile stretch of road. After 4 times she called 911. The US 20 signs were on the new stretch but she wouldnt believe them. Just remember computers do not lie.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 04:35 pm:

No, they just do what they're told. Garbage in, garbage out. This is another example of why I don't believe in the plot theory of history. The existence of vast conspiracies would depend on a sudden outbreak of universal competence.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 04:39 pm:

Steve, one of my favorite lines from many years ago is, "My computer doesn't do what I want it to do, it does what I tell it to do!" :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vern (Vieux Carre) on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 05:02 pm:

After Hurricane Katrina, we got a GPS because most of the street signs were gone. We were doing survey work south in Plaquemines Parish where the buildings were swept away when we noticed that the GPS was off. Had we been driving at night, we could have ended up in the Mississippi River or the Gulf of Mexico, because that is where it said the street was.
Vern


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean Kiefer - Adams, MN on Friday, August 11, 2017 - 08:37 pm:

Steve, main street in our town which is a state Highway is all tore up. New sewer, water, gas, electric, curb and gutter. They dug down about 8 ft then covered it all up. Next day we get 6 inches of rain. A lady driving on the highway goes around the barricade and makes it a couple of blocks before planting her car deep in the mud. The State Patrol asked why she did that and she said navigation told her to. She also had no license or insurance.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Lefeber on Saturday, August 12, 2017 - 11:40 am:

Steve, I mounted my GPS to the dash with a magnet. I use it mainly to keep track of the miles so I know when to change oil.gps-mountgps


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Saturday, August 12, 2017 - 12:18 pm:

To Err is Human, To really foul things up you must involve at least one Computer! (Screen Saver on AOL training computer)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison - Rice, Minnesota on Saturday, August 12, 2017 - 03:01 pm:

Steve, are the miles in Kansas longer than the miles in New York City?

Maybe you need to invest in a sextant and compass. Oh, and remember to leave a bread crumb trail.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Saturday, August 12, 2017 - 03:13 pm:

Google maps is often no better. I just had a case today where I printed out map directions to City Park in Arnold, MO. The directions said to enter the park via some subdivision roads, but when I got there the subdivision roads into the park had been blocked off to vehicular traffic, and a new entrance to the park had been built off of the main road, bypassing the subdivision.


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