Check out this beauty! Does anyone have and info on it? What does the switch look like that goes to it?
Have fun. It included a small dash mounted instrument panel.
https://books.google.com/books?id=6nVIAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA109&dq=johl+heinze+Starter+f ord&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjEgPCT39zVAhWq7IMKHaLnDKEQ6AEIMDAC#v=onepage&q=johl%20 heinze%20Starter%20ford&f=false
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Google books search with all results from 1909 through 1927:
My Friend, Mr. Google found these:
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Erik types faster...
Here's a switch for it...
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Should have an ammeter instead of the oil pressure gauge shown.
Why? neither gauge would be of any use on an early block that the starter would be good for.
Jack Putnam has one (I am pretty sure it is a Heinze) on one of his Model T's and it is working.
If you have a combination starter-generator system such as the Heinze shown, you would also have a storage battery as part of the system.
Thanks for all the responses. I don't know what my plans are for it yet. I think it's a pretty cool piece.
Hope you got a bargain on it! Seems like it would add a lot of weight to a T.
That's quite a self-commencer! It must be Jack's T that Bud Delong showed me at the OCF.
Ed and all,i could very well be wrong but i think Jack has a Dayton winder upper??
Yes, my bad, I see now that it is combined, but looking at the timing gear cover, it looks like it's for a generator block. Interesting that one would opt for one of these systems of original Ford.
Yes I have a working Hienze-Springfield starter dynamo in working order. It is installed on my 1914. I have researched this accessory and it is great. If you need help with yours contact me. Jack.
Sorry Jack its been a few years.Was said starter made in Dayton Ohio?
Never seen one before. Cool.
Hi Ken: The starter was made in Springfield Ohio, not far from Dayton. Production later moved to Detroit.
Jack - Any pictures of it installed in the car? Amazed all of that fits underneath a hood.
Here is the Heinze-Springfield starter installed in my 1914. It is a tight fit and the hood barely clears when closed.
Jack, How do you get a water pump to fit? Scott
It looks like it replaces the front timing cover on a generator engine which doesn't make much sense.
It is for a non-generator engine.
Here's the back side of mine, showing the gasket surface where it fits to a non-generator block.
The patent number listed above shows a file date of 1916 and patent date of 1918. This model must of been made post 1919 as a dual application model. I see why there are so few out there. They had maybe 2 years before ford came out with their own starter and generator.
That certainly is a possibility Jeff, though it goes against what I've been told about the starter. It makes sense though