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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 03:26 pm:

It costs me $82.00 a year to register my 23 RA
It costs me that much to register my Fordor too.

I paid $1598.00 to register the Speedster that I bought from Chuck Smith in Colorado. (Over $1200.00 of that they call a "use tax").

I paid $147.00 to register the speedster that I just built. (plus a few months of BS runaround)


Just wondering


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 03:28 pm:

Sorry, wrong forum


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 03:32 pm:

Sorry, Correct Forum


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Walker on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 03:35 pm:

One-time cost of $200 in sales tax, and about $23 for the vintage tag registration for my '20 T Fairground Racer.

As long as I own this car, and the laws and taxes stay as they are, these are the total registration/title costs for ownership, lifetime.

Sweet home Alabama.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean Kiefer - Adams, MN on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 03:38 pm:

I registered our T with original 1914 Minnesota plates, the same as Pioneer plates. Don't remember what it cost 25 years ago but it hasn't cost a dime since.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Putnam, Bluffton, Ohio on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 03:40 pm:

$23.50 Ohio one time cost, includes the historical plate, which is good for 50 years.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jason Given - St. Paul, MN on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 04:14 pm:

In MN, it was $18.50/yr to register my T as a daily driver. I have registered YOM, plates, that cost me about $12 (one time fee). But I have it registered as a weekend/parade/some kinda of low milage BS, which has a one time registration, which I think I paid $25 years ago. Sales Tax, when i bought it was very little, maybe $100.

I am on my second set of plates on the car. First set was pioneer plates, now YOM (truck plates), when I find a set of YOM car plates at the right price, I'll swap them out, and pay the plate fee again.

Man CA, is not cheap!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 04:34 pm:

$30/6 years = $5/year


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 04:34 pm:

Oops, $30/5 years = $6/year


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 04:41 pm:

Missouri Historic Plates:

One time fee of $28.75

No inspections (just VIN verification)

No renewals

Not transferable

A vehicle that is registered as a historic vehicle may be driven:

To and from exhibitions and educational events without any mileage limitation;

To repair facilities within a 100 mile limit;

Up to 1,000 miles per year for personal use.

The owner is responsible for keeping a log of the miles driven for personal use each calendar year. The log must be kept in the vehicle when the vehicle is being driven on any state road.

:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 04:44 pm:

After the initial sales tax, antiques here cost $17 a year.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Whelihan Danbury, WI on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 05:08 pm:

In WI you have to pay 5.5% sales tax t registration of the vehicle. Then you need to choke up $150 for Collector plates. After that, there's no annual cost. If you display YOM plates like I do, you just need to keep the Collector Plates someplace in the car for Law enforcement to view if requested.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 05:27 pm:

What Mark Strange said.... (And the reason we have the 1,000 "personal miles" a year is that the late Bud Barnes was a state legislator for many years and also a member of the Model T club.)

Hal, sounds to me like you must be in California. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Saylor, Citrus Heights, Ca on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 05:54 pm:

Hal, I pay 83 on my 21 touring and 92 on the 27 Tudor since it has YOM plates. Have all of you Californians signed the petition to repeal the increase in fees next year? Its going up $25 -$175 based on present DMV value of your car. Its part of the new gas tax law SB-1.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 06:01 pm:

Speaking of Bud, he and I went to Kirkwood High School one day to talk about Model Ts. (Bud did most of the talking. A great guy and knowledgeable about pretty much anything related to history.)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 06:37 pm:

My dad registered his 1910 IHC and 1917 Ford in 1953 with Minnesota Pioneer plates (first year they were issued) and hasn't paid a dime since.

Jason Given:

Although Pioneer, Classic, Collector, Streetrod and YOM Minnesota registration and license plates are for restricted use, the law is actually very liberal and vague: "..the vehicle is owned and operated solely as a collector's item and not for general transportation purposes." That's what the law says - no more, no less.

General transportation basically means you cannot use the vehicle for everyday use, such as daily commuting to and from work. There are no mileage restrictions or references to parades, car shows, weekends, etc.

Sometimes there is a tendency to confuse motor vehicle laws with insurance policy restrictions. It is the insurance policy which can be very restrictive. The Minnesota law is not.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 08:47 pm:

Paid once, and never have to pay again in NJ


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown North Central Arkansas on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 09:55 pm:

I think they are currently about 24.00 one time fee in Arkansas for antique tags. They are a lifetime tag for that particular owner and car. We are also a bill of sale only state to get antique tags for a vehicle 25 years or older. Just need a bill of sale and three receipts for parts or work done on car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Jensen on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 10:00 pm:

In Arizona they charge a $20 license tax, $8.25 for the registration and $3.00 for the Air Quality fee. I also pay an additional $20.00 for the Historical Vehicle plate which is made of copper. Arizona is the Copper State. So the total is $51.25 a year. You do not need to get the Historical Vehicle plate you can use the regular car plate without the additional $20.00 fee.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Jensen on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 10:08 pm:

I paid for 2 years this past time so it is $51.25 for 2 years. Didn't look at the expiration date of Dec 2018.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 10:32 pm:

When you live in Missouri and keep a log book, who checks it?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Marv Konrad (Green Bay Area) on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 10:44 pm:

-Hal-
Ya gotta move back to Wisconsin! If it's titled in your name, the fee is $5 and non-expiring!
http://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/dmv/vehicles/title-plates/antique.aspx


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 10:55 pm:

Marv, I agree. I was hoping someone from Tennessee would also post here. I once heard that auto registration there is next to nothing.

I was in Wausau/Stevens Point/Hamburg in July and visited a nephew in Appleton.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick Goelz-Knoxville,TN on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 11:02 pm:

In Tennessee it depends on how you register it, antique plates are a one time charge, sales tax on the purchase price plus the tag charge then no more costs the plate fee when I registered my 26 in 04 was #32.00. You can also register it as a regular car and it will cost $60.00 ? per year which is the tag charge and wheel tax combined but the use is unrestricted. The AA tags are restricted to going on tours, club outings parades etc. I have never been stopped going to the hardware store or to lunch. Rick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Lloid on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 11:07 pm:

In Georgia it's $20 per year and if you have your antique plates they will register them in place of the modern plate. You keep the new plate and tag paperwork in the vehicle. You only need a bill of sale and the police inspect the car.It's not a bad process.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Duey_C on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 11:15 pm:

In July, to transfer the title and keep the lifetime pioneer plates that came with the car, it cost $184.00 CASH.
I told her I paid 2 grand for it. Thank goodness I stash cash in my Buick.
I like what Erik says about the laws here in Minnesota. A trifle vague and simple. :-) Ya, Insurance is another story.
Regular plate tabs used to be $38.50/year, the wife just guessed at $56.00 nowadays.

(Message edited by Duey_C on August 28, 2017)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Marv Konrad (Green Bay Area) on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 11:46 pm:

-Mark S.-
Good information! (Just wonder how anyone could be expected to have a 'mileage log' if there's no speedometer, or odometer for that matter....)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brass car guy on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 11:53 pm:

Washington State has a 1 time fee $35.00 including a singe license pate. Depending on your vehicle yr they have several different classifications.

These plates for for use to and from events, shows and exhibitions. Also for testing and limited use. They are not to be used for daily drivers, going to unauthorized shopping trips etc.

just sayin'

brasscarguy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Monday, August 28, 2017 - 11:54 pm:

Duey:

In Minnesota, there is no sales tax for cars registered under one of collector car classes so it doesn't matter what you actually paid for the car. It's just a $150 flat fee. It has been a flat fee in lieu of sales tax for at least 25 years, although the flat fee was lower years ago. This eliminated the game playing that was done by buyers and sellers and eliminated the need of the DMV to try to determine fair market value for antique and collector cars. See last paragraph below:

Motor Vehicle Sales Tax Breakdown
Tax Rate 6.5%:
Sales tax is due on most purchases or acquisitions of motor vehicles. It is based on the total purchase price or fair market value of the vehicle, whichever is higher. When a vehicle is acquired for nominal or no monetary consideration, tax to be paid is based on the average value of similar vehicles.

In-Lieu of:
$10 is collected on passenger vehicles 10 model years old and older (does not apply to motorcycles). Purchase price must be under $3,000 - see below for sales tax information for older cars.

$150 applies to passenger vehicles and fire trucks registered, or applying for registration, as Collector, Classic, Street Rod and Pioneer, regardless of actual purchase price or fair market value of vehicle. All other vehicles (trucks, one ton pickups, motorcycles) must pay 6.5 percent of the purchase price or fair market value.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 12:24 am:

The problem here in California, is we have total liberal control in Sacramento. They want us working and retired people to support those who choose not to live that way. So, the registration prices just keep going up!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 01:38 am:

The streets in Sacramento are so rough they really beat up your car and instead of fixing the streets they installed 15 or 20 MPH speed "tables" (bumps) everywhere. There seems to be enough $$ to build huge tunnels to divert water to Southern California and there's $$ to build an unneeded high speed train (and $$ for speed bumps), but not enough to fix the streets. Now they want to tack on a big gas tax (they did that a few years ago) to fix out streets. If this new deal goes through (SB-1 I think it is) it'll cost over $100.00 a year to register each of my T's. As I write this the average gas price in California is $2.85 where the rest of the nation average is $2.38.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Duey_C on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 02:05 am:

Erik, that IS very interesting. It had been beaten into my head that the question would be asked. :-) I understand a bit better.
You 'spect she asked me how much it cost out of shear habit? Perhaps. "Well my (hot to me) dear little school-mate, I spent 10 grand on a whole bunch of old junk and I'll be back." Nope, not gonna tell her.
:-)
Larry, you are spot on for every working/retired person in this country! You hit that nail.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Matthiesen on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 03:24 am:

Yes Mr. Hal Schedler it will be well over $100.00 a year minimum registration cost and closer to $150.00 in the counties south of you, due to the non-atainment air board extra fee for small air dust particles. You can thank Comrade Jerry Brown and the rest of the wack-o-crats for that. Remember the California controlling politicians rule: If you earn a $1.00 then the tax on that $1.00 is $1.50 but if you steal a $1.00 the State will give you another $1.00 to go with it. Or at least things just seem like that these days.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 06:48 am:

I live in Florida got a Horseless Carriage plate,$65.00 good for as long as I own the car!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick Duquette Grand Forks, ND on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 07:20 am:

In North Dakota a one time registration fee of $10 also good for as long as I own the car!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 10:38 am:

Steve, in theory a cop who has pulled you over can ask to see the log book and could even, I guess, pull you over to ask you. In practice, I know of no one who has ever been asked for the log book. I once asked Bud how a Model T owner is supposed to document mileage without an odometer and his answer was that it's not required if you don't have an odometer. I politely refrained from asking him why he didn't write that into the statute, then.... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Philip Berg on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 12:18 pm:

It cost me $200 to title and register my 1911 touring last summer. Not sure what the renewal will be.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brooks Schlieben on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 01:35 pm:

Any Pa. experiences?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Codman on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 01:46 pm:

I agree with Larry, not so much with Hal. Sorry, we simply cannot continually expand the highway system to satisfy an ever-expanding population of both cars and people. When I lived in Massachusetts, I would have been ecstatic to have real high-speed rail between Boston and New York. FWIW: My definition of high-speed rail is an average speed of 100 mph or better between any two points on the trip that are 100 miles apart. Amtrak's definition is that the train must exceed 124 mph at some point during the trip. By that definition, a train could leave Boston at 10 mph, travel at that speed to western New York, and accelerate to 125 mph for one mile, slow back to 10 mph, reaching Chicago 95 hours after leaving Boston, and Amtrak could call it high-speed rail.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Anziani on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 10:15 pm:

In NC, they get you for County tax, and city tax, plus a vehicle fee. I also have a vanity plate which adds $30.00 Total for the year is $234.35


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 10:43 pm:

Hal, the price of gas today in Kenosha at Sam's (think WalMart) is $2.14, but you need to be a Sam's club member to buy it there. If you have their charge card, you get an additional 5% in "Rewards" on your card. Other places are charging about $2.39.

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay F. Cramer on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 10:45 pm:

In Iowa I run a regular truck plate on my T pickup--$35/year. If you want to talk about very basic transportation, my 59 Morris Minor costs $10/year, half of what it costs to license a two-wheel pickup box trailer ($20/year)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - 04:55 am:

I have been following this thread with interest. many of the deals some states have for you are enviable in terms of registration costs.

Briefly, in South Australia, historic registration can be used for any car 30 years or older. The fee is 1/4 that for a 4 cylinder car on full rego, approx $110/year. That entitles us to 90 days unrestricted use, as long as we make an entry into the logbook provided under the scheme.

This fee includes compulsory third party insurance. When I add on comprehensive insurance for a car worth $25000, that annual premium on a multi vehicle old car policy is around $65.

How much does insurance add to the costs you fellows face?

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - 07:37 am:

Allen of course individual driving records come into play for that but I pay about $300.00 per year for all 5 of my historic vehicles currently on the road.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jason Harms - Sacramento County, CA on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - 12:14 pm:

26' T - California Registration $110 this year.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Codman on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - 01:06 pm:

Florida $36.25 for six months plus a $56 YOM plate verification fee and an $86 one-time grab based on weight. I'm guessing that from now on the registration will be around $75 per year.


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