Selling off some parts for a friend. Any ideas as to what years and models these fit? The brackets that hold the top bows have T 5179 81 on one and T5178 81 "B" or "R" on the other.
first brackets are from '23 roadster and a little later...
and the irons are from same, and I believe will also fit touring of same vintage
oh and that thing in the middle is a radiator cap...
I was thinking that the first brackets pictured are rear body to frame brackets for a late 22 to 23 low cowl touring (maybe later?
They are a little different than the ones later posted if you look closely.
Granted, the outline is slightly different, but if you look at the holes, they are the same bracket. Both runabout and touring of that vintage have all same brackets...these in the front, and triangular brackets for the center and rear
They are the rear brackets for a touring. The front ones have a bend for the dash pillars.
Scott, I was wondering what the thing in the middle was. I think John may be on to something, the brackets I have don't have the offset the ones pictured have. John, I know where a little later touring is and I'll go check. That might tell the tale. The last thing I want to do is mis-represent something to someone that is relying on me to know what I'm selling.
That's what I was thinking Leon. I have a pair of these I was going to use for my 21 Touring rebuild but was told 21 and earlier didn't use them. Is that correct?
Leon is correct that the first 2 photos are the rear brackets for a touring with the 3 piece rear (21-25?). The other photos show the rear brackets for a touring (21-25?) that the frame for the top attaches to.
The brackets were used after the rear cross sill went from wood to steel 1921-25 tourings (three piece rear tub body). Roadster top irons before 1923, not touring.
John, Leon and others. Thank you for the schooling. I clearly don't know the innards of a touring like I know the roadster. Many thanks for following up and correcting me
The top irons may be for a roadster as Mark stated but a 3 piece rear tub touring also has them like that too.
Here are the brackets installed.
I stand corrected. They are indeed touring top brackets. Ford part numbers are; 5178BIRX and 5179BIRX Iron (body top) rear seat side R&L. 1921-1925
The 1927 body parts book only has an illustration of them for the runabout/roadster but they have a different parts number and the leg that mounts to the pillar looks longer.
I have been following this after finding out that I was completely mistaken in my ID. Thanks for posting these pix of the part in place.
Thanks to Scott, Mark, Corey, Thomas,and John for working out my question. I don't have experience in the "Middle ages" of T's. I have little experience with 13 and the most in the New 26-7's. Thanks again! Chuck in Littleton, Colo. Be warned I have few more parts I can't identify coming in the next few weeks.