Deep Channel Green

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2017: Deep Channel Green
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Stryker on Saturday, September 23, 2017 - 09:21 pm:

What are the options for buying this color lacquer? I know Mac's sells it for what I consider a crazy price. Are there other options?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Saturday, September 23, 2017 - 09:52 pm:

Sure get the paint mixing code for the color that you want and take it to your nearest automotive paint store and let them mix as much as you need. I, once had a 26 T coupe body, that when I removed the gas tank, had original green paint still on the firewall. I took it to my nearest PPG paint dealer and he used his "Prophet" analyzer on the color. Then his computer printed out the color formula for me. It was not a dark green, but more of a medium gray/green. I have the formula if you'd want it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Stryker on Saturday, September 23, 2017 - 09:57 pm:

I know there were a couple different greens in 26, but would love to have the paint code for the Deep Channel Green if anyone has it. I really just need to paint one door.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Saturday, September 23, 2017 - 10:57 pm:

In that case, Terry, do what I said, if you have a PPG paint dealer near you. Let him analyze your paint color with his "Prophet" and you'll get about as close a match as is possible. Remember, too, that if the good paint is older paint, that it could be faded a bit and the analyzer will compensate for that. Of course if the rest of the car's paint is fresh, it won't be faded, but the analyzer will still give you a good paint match. I have seen many 26-27 coupes and tudors with different shades of green. I don't know if anyone has a 100% correct code; even Mac's!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vern (Vieux Carre) on Saturday, September 23, 2017 - 11:14 pm:

The inside of my '26 coupe door, near the hinges, has dark green paint but I don't know the history of the paint job, nor have I had it scanned yet.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alan George Long on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 12:51 am:

At the time of my restoration I couldn't get deep channel green
The closest colour was GTO Green which is a Mini Minor colour


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Whelihan Danbury, WI on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 07:53 am:

I've seen two versions of Deep Channel Green. The first version is almost black until you shine a light on it. Then you can see the green color. That was on two unmolested cars under the dash on the firewall. The other one is almost kind of a mix of gray and pea green. I suspect the darker color was an early version of Deep Channel Green, and the latter color used more on later production in 1926 through 1927. I think duplicating the earlier color is going to be more hit and miss. Make more than mixing up a couple of samples to get it correct. If you look at the colors of some well preserved period advertising, you can kind of see the correct shade of the paint.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vern (Vieux Carre) on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 08:17 am:

The best understanding of original 26-27 paint can be found on pages 403-4 of Bruce McCalley's Model T Ford. Terry, you never did state if your car had any green remnants.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Stryker on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 08:47 am:

I have plenty of paint on the car. The little bit of flaking on the door has become much worse over the month. This is the best picture I have of the color and the problem. I understand I can take the car or even a piece of paint to the paint store to match it. I just don't know if they still sell lacquer. What I am hearing you say is that PPG does still have lacquer - and hopefully at a price much cheaper than the $250 a quart that Mac's wants. I also don't know how large of a paint chip I need to take for matching.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A Bartsch on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 10:16 am:

This info may be redundant, Thepaintguyz.com have been at Hershey and claim to provide correct Channel Green. They offer those little 'sample' cans of custom paint to try before you fully invest. They may be back @ Hershey this yr.

Rob Chamberlin Reeds Springs, MO, four 17-8 sixty-89fifty. I have not yet opened my sample of CG, to verify color and have no affiliations with this company. jb


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Whelihan Danbury, WI on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 10:37 am:

Terry, I don't know that you need a lacquer to get the correct looking results for the early Deep Channel Green on your car. I think you could easily mix up a couple small batches of paint until you found the right color and paint it with an acrylic enamel. Lots better chip resistance than lacquer and good color stability as well.

Just curious...which style of headlight mounts do you have on there: stalk mounts, or tie bar mounts?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Stryker on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 04:11 pm:

Kevin - the headlights are bar mount. I know I can use lacquer and get a decent result - I am not sure about acrylic enamel. I have used it a couple times with little success.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By gary j. baker on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 04:38 pm:

hi;
ppg prophet needs a flat 4 in. square area to get a good read.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john hardiman on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 05:26 pm:

If by chance, of knowing, an auto body shop in your area you can request to talk to their paint representative who troubleshoots issues regarding all areas of painting. This person has access to a machine which will analyze paint. I do not know the name of the machine. However, Terry calls it a "prophet".

No matter what paint system you use they all have this representative available. Usually not to the public. However, most shops will help.

If possible make an appointment with this representative and bring the car to this auto body shop. He will try to find an area unmolested by nature. If this is not possible he will use compound, micro-finisher, buff an area and then use the machine to analyze this area giving you the best possible matching paint formula.

You don't have a glove box in this car? LOL! They love to analyze those things!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Stryker on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 05:30 pm:

John, no glove box, but was thinking about just taking the fuel door in. Seems that it is large enough.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Val Soupios on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 10:07 pm:

Terry, I had the paint chipping off a door on my 1910 Chalmers-Detroit and was in a quandary as to how I could match it with lacquer. I had some of the paint that was used on the car in the late 60's but it no longer matched the paint on the car as it had faded over the years. I sent a chip of the paint off the door to Hibernia Auto Restorations in NJ and they matched it perfectly. They bought a ton of lacquer base from Dupont when they stopped making it and have a guy who is a genius at matching colors. The price was reasonable and the match was dead on.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john hardiman on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 10:42 pm:

Terry, that would work well. Bring the fuel door directly to the paint supplier. Around these parts a company called Montique Brown, a PPG supplier, in Quincy Massachusetts, does well and are extremely helpful.

Clean it up if you can like I described above. It will make it easy. You never know they could do it for you and probably would any way, so as, to get the best results. It may be they have to because it is part of the procedure to get the best possible paint code.

BTW, was joking about the glove box thing. Every time I've seen this machine work they want to use the glove box door.


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