****Need larger valve head help.****

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Putnam, Bluffton, Ohio on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - 03:33 pm:

I have a T block that has previously been ported and will need larger head valves with stems that are .030 OS. I am looking for valve head of approximately 1.625". I am open to suggestions and direction from those who have solved this type of problem. Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. JP


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - 04:45 pm:

Jack, I think that in the era, some used modified Fordson tractor or Dodge valves. I talks about in in Model T Speed and Sport book.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Pharis on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - 04:46 pm:

Small block chebby exhaust valves come in an array of sizes. 1.600 happens to be a very common size. They also have 11/32" stems, which is 1/32" O/S. I run 1.720" and 1.600" chebby valves in my flat T. There are a few standard chebby lengths available, as also are +.100" and +.200" lengths. Measure an ol' T valve and Google the Manley Valve catalog, they should have anything you need on the shelf


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Owens on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - 07:29 pm:

351 windsor is a bit larger and you can get them wit h the right stem size. Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chad Marchees _____Tax Capital, NY on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - 09:00 pm:

From Rockauto, You can get some EngineTech Ford 351 Clevland exhaust valves that have the specs as shown below.

Part# V1765
Stem Diameter: .3415"
Valve head: 1.654"
Keeper Grooves 4
Notes Chrome Stem
Stem Diameter 11/32
Valve Length 5.051

You then can use Ford Tractor 9N valve retainers with a stock style Model T spring with the proper modern valve retainers to match the valves.

I have not actually used that part# valve, but I have used part# V1761 (351 Windsor) and the matching single groove keepers with the 9 N retainers.

It appears other than the number of grooves for the keepers and the head diameters, the valves are essentially the same. I have used the V1761 with stock Model T lifters as the valves are very close to the stock length T valves. The larger head diameter V1765 should be in the same boat, but are .024" shorter---probably would be better with adjustable lifters I would think.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Putnam, Bluffton, Ohio on Thursday, October 12, 2017 - 09:41 am:

Thanks for all the input. It really gives me direction and help to solve a problem.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Thursday, October 12, 2017 - 12:14 pm:

Jack I am sure you will know this, but for others, be sure to check your clearances if using a stock head (maybe others too) and gasket when going to larger head on valves. There is a point were if the valve head is too large it will hit the gasket and or inside of the combustion chamber.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chad Marchees _____Tax Capital, NY on Thursday, October 12, 2017 - 12:50 pm:

Mark, thank you for adding that. I was going to mention that and forgot.

I also wanted to mention that the valve stem clearance should also be checked. I have a .343" reamer to double check that and relieve any tight spots on the guides.


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