1923 4 Door Touring purchased at auction, new to the "T"

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2017: 1923 4 Door Touring purchased at auction, new to the "T"
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Curtis Fesler on Sunday, October 22, 2017 - 09:05 pm:

I've always wanted one and I think I found a diamond in the rough. It hasn't run in over ten years but appears to be all there with a few extras including a ruxstell (Spelling???) rear end and a water pump. After reading some of the postings in other places I heard the water pump isn't necessary. I do have a radiator that leaks and will be replaced. I am waiting on an expert to help me get it going. I live in a hilly Ozarks location so would I be advised to get a fuel pump? I'll have more dumb novice questions later.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, October 22, 2017 - 09:29 pm:

The Ruckstell is a big plus, especially in hilly country. The water pump is a minus, especially as you're getting a new radiator (Berg's recommended). The first 2500 came from the factory with a water pump. The next fifteen million didn't, for a reason. The fuel pump, in my opinion, would be more trouble than it's worth. BUT you also want to keep plenty of gas in the tank. Two gallons is plenty; one gallon is not enough. Just to be safe in hill country, make that minimum three gallons. I like to carry running board gas cans, not just for decoration. A couple of times they have saved me a long walk to the next filling station.

Here are some links that may be useful:

http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG80.html

http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG79.html

http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG93.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, October 22, 2017 - 09:57 pm:

Curious about the "four door" touring. That is not a standard thing on USA built Ts. Canadian T touring cars were four door, because they provided them in either left hand or right hand drive for different areas of the British Commonwealth.
There were after-market left doors offered for USA built touring cars, which are quite interesting to some of us. Does your T have four doors? Or three? Or maybe it is a sedan?
We all tend to like pictures! Model Ts are our toys, and sometimes we are like children that way.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JIM WILSON, AMORY, MS on Sunday, October 22, 2017 - 10:01 pm:

His profile says 4 door sedan. That's probably what he has.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Duey_C on Sunday, October 22, 2017 - 10:50 pm:

Curtis, "I'll have more dumb novice questions later." Fiddle sticks.
I'm an OLD novice. Been playing with T's for 20+ years and yet so new here! :-) See my profile. :-)
Ask away and hold onto your hat! :-) A fuel pump? Now hold on a minute, mister! Hehehe!
Put some goop (acrylic latex or silicone) on that radiator if you can to stop the leaks and fire it up and see. ???
I'm a junktard mechanic but many of these fine fellows will help steer you in the right direction.
Curtis, do you have any pictures to share of your T? These folks (and me) love pictures.
Is it a gorgeous sweety or a rusty relic? Don't matter, spade. Show us.
Welcome! Keep that water pump until you know you can use it as a wheel chock.
:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Davis on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 12:06 am:

I too just recently got My first T, a 26 touring also made in Canada, it has four doors but the driver side front door is very difficult to get into crawling over the Hand brake, probably why most touring model's and coups didn't have a drivers door, easier to crawl in other side, and most drivers in the early 1900 were a lot thinner than most folks today, The car also has a water pump, which I am leaving, Young folks in good shape don't need a pacemaker but old folks and old cars sometimes need a little assistance.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Troy Todd on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 12:07 am:

If you were to post a better description of your location people here could direct you to a local club or someone to help answer that would be local to you. You don't need to post and exact location or phone #.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Davis on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 12:42 am:

I have a 26 touring made in Canada, it has four doors but the driver side front door is very difficult to get into crawling over the Hand brake, probably why most touring model and some coups didn't have a drivers door, People in the early 1900 were a lot thinner than most folks today, The car also has a water pump, which I am leaving, Young folks in good shape don't need a pacemaker but old folks and old cars sometimes need a little assistance.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Curtis Fesler on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 07:26 am:

Many thanks for the replies. I'm going to attempt to post a picture. The car is rest free and all the glass looks good. Some mice got inside and ate a lot of the head liner behind the back seat. I am considering doing away with the water pump when the new radiator is installed. I love this T'


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Curtis Fesler on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 07:39 am:

I'm not that good with the computer and need instructions on how to load a picture.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 09:10 am:

By tech standards, the software on this site is ancient. It has a picture file size limit of 250 KB. Most photos are over the limit and you have to resize them. There are three approaches to this.

1 Have some kid teach you. That's teach, not just show.

2 Struggle with the computer on your own until you stumble across the secret.

3 Use one of the free resizing websites. Google free resize.

Whichever approach you take, make a copy of your original photo and resize the copy in case you later need the original for something else.

Once you have your resized copy use the Upload Attachment button below to post it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 09:44 am:

Troy, his profile says that he is in Mountain View, Arkansas.

Curtis, try these folks: http://www.mtfca.com/clubpages/chapters.htm#ar


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 09:56 am:

Curtis sent me a couple of photos of this nice-looking car, so here they are.




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 10:17 am:

The car is a 4 dr. sedan. In some literature the term 'closed cars' refers to Sedans and Coupes. Touring or Runabout (Roadster) is referring to 'open cars' with no top.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 10:27 am:

Ford's spelling of four door was Fordor. The two door sedan was called a Tudor. The doctor's coupe was called a coupé.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 10:37 am:

Little is known of the first Fordor, but the first Tudor was Henry VII.... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Conger - Wyoming on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 10:46 am:

Curtis

you have a very nice looking car. Good for you. Enjoy!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 11:09 am:

Yes, Curtis is in Mountain View and he has already joined our AR Tin Lizzies club. He is scheduled to bring his car to my shop in the next few days for a little work (getting it running, checking out the rear end, and general overall checks for roadworthiness). He'll be enjoying driving the car on our wonderful AR Model T roads very soon. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 11:38 am:

Good to hear, Mike. He's in good hands, then.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 04:46 pm:

Now, THAT is a nice sedan!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 07:12 pm:

Thanks, Dick. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown North Central Arkansas on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 07:16 pm:

Hi Curtis. Welcome to the world of Model Ts. We are almost neighbors. I live in Clinton Arkansas. We go to Mountain View on a regular basis to listen to the folk and bluegrass music. (For those who have not been to Mountain View, it is considered the Folk Music capital of the world). You will be in good hands with Mike Walker. I am also a member of the Arkansas Tin Lizzies. Most of the roads around Mountain View are driveable in a stock Model T Fordor. The Ruxtell will really help. I would highly suggest to stay away from Hwy 9 south out of town till you get some driving experience. That hill is not for a novice ... If you want,send me a PM message or an e-mail to dobro(at)artelco.com or call 501-seven four five - 4397. Maybe we can meet up next time we go to Mountain View or you can come to Clinton for a visit. I have a ton or two of parts if you need anything and happy to see a new T owner in our neck of the Ozarks ...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Curtis Fesler on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 07:29 pm:

Donnie,
Pleased to meet you. I hope to get the car on the road soon and look forward to meeting up. If you know where Jacks resort is, I'm three miles north on the river.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown North Central Arkansas on Monday, October 23, 2017 - 07:51 pm:

Curtis. I know really close where you live. We eat catfish at Jo-Jos regularly. The hill from Jacks Resort back into town is probably what will test the Fordor gas tank. It is such a long hill. Its a very good road, just a very long grade. I would suggest to always have the gas tank full when driving from home to town. I would also suggest to ask Mike if he thinks an outside oil line may be needed (if it does not have one). Mike should be familiar with the roads around Mountain View. I saw your car listed on Auction Zip before the auction. I was not able to make the sale, but it looks like a real nice car, and since it probably was a car set up to drive in the Ozarks you should have no problems. Where we live in the Ozarks the Ruxtell will become your friend :-) Since it has a Ruxtell, it is important to have outside accy brakes. I can not tell from the above photos if it does or not. It does have the large rear drums so it is very likely it already has accy brakes. There will be a learning curve to driving the car. They are not like anything else on the road. So if you have never driven a T before, just take it a step at a time till you get used to it. Then its 1/2 the speed but twice the fun ... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joe LaMacchia, St. Louis, MO. on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 10:50 am:

That Diamond doesn't look 'Rough' at all,
looks like a pretty damn good find to me!
Congrats.


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