Does anyone have any idea of the year of this truck?
Nobody is going to pass your test without a clue, like maybe a photo?
Sorry, I tried to upload a picture, but my file is too big to upload. Is there a quick and dirty way for someone to tell me how to reduce the size of the file?
I just use imgur to upload and post a link here... that ways you can use a high quality photo.
Other than that to answer your question just look up photo shrinker online or something like that? Unless there's a trick..
If you're posting pics from an iPhone or iPad, I use an app called SimpleResize. Just pick your photo, pull the slider to 640x480 and save.
There are of course other ways of doing it too.
Thanks for the info. I resized in PAINT. You gave me the magic numbers 640x480. Based on comments to my previous post (about custom bodies being put on Ford chassis's) this may not tell you much, I should be able to get more pix in the next few weeks. Does this tell you anything? It is supposed to be a 1925.
All the picture really tells me is that the truck body looks to be in fantastic shape for its age.
When you go to get more pictures, for dating and ID purposes I imagine in addition to a decent overview of the whole truck most forum members will want to see the radiator, engine, inside of the cab, and the rear axle. On the driver's side of the engine block there should also be a pipe going from the engine block to the bottom of the radiator, just above where it bolts to the block there will be a rectangular flat spot with a number stamped on it. That's the engine's serial number and can be used to fairly accurately determine the date of manufacture.
The serial number or really any one detail won't necessarily guarantee the age of the truck though, you do have to bear in mind that Ford smade fifteen million Model T's between 1909 and 1927 and just about any piece from one year can be made to fit on another year. It's not uncommon to see a mix of different year parts on a T either because later production had fixed an earlier deficiency in design, or because parts were bought new to fix the car when it was a couple years old, or sometimes when restoring it's just easier that way.
That style of body could be anywhere from about 1905 through at least 1930. Commercial bodies progressed more slowly than passenger automobiles. So yes, other details will be important to date the truck.
And yeah, it looks nice!
Can't help you much on the body, but here is a link to the interesting history of Saint Peters, PA where it served. About halfway down the page is discussion on the General Store which is where the Bakery was at. Would be interesting to get it together and drive down there some day. Looks like a very nice place to visit. - Matt
Matthew. let me know when you want to come. This truck is supposed to end up on display in Morgantown PA just next to the PA Turnpike exit. Will let you know when it arrives. Title attached.
Does the VIN answer any questions?
The VIN is a 1925 number. That should say the engine is a '25. The truck may or may not be. My guess: It is.
The engine date is Tuesday, November 3, 1925. That's well into the 1926 model year. I bet when we see more pictures there will be wide pedals.
12,632,170 is a November 1925 engine serial number, several months into 1926 model year that started in August, so it's very odd it has a date of first registration from June 1925?
As so many other T's the engine may have been swapped during those 92 years, but with good photos we'll be able to tell more. Frame numbering didn't start until December, so the engine number was all there was for identification 1915-25.
That's not far from me, considering I live near Morgantown, WV. Driven past there many times on my way back to NJ, when we lived there. - Matt
That's pretty neat. Back about a dozen years ago I lived in the General Store for two months while working a job with a friend that was renting a unit in the building. The main floor of the General Store is again a bakery and where I stayed is now a commercial kitchen. At that time St. Peters was kind of an odd place, a bit run down with a mix of full time residents and part time artsy-type businesses. On the weekends it was taken over by bikers that came for the bar at the Inn. Today it is more gentrified and an attempt was made to create a sympathetic residential development behind the quarry, though I think the market crash put a dent in that project as it was started just before the downturn hit. It is an interesting place still frequented by a lot of people on the weekends that go to climb on the rocks.
Walter, you got that right about the Village. Founded in 1868 by Davis Knauer who first opened up an iron forge there (there were iron mines there then), and then built the Excursion House hotel to capitalize on visitors to the Falls of French Creek. Two different train lines would deliver visitors to the Falls and the Inn. The granite quarry Knauer started in 1885 shipped about 3 million Belgian Blocks to pave the streets of Philly, Baltimore, and other cities. Then they turned the granite business to making monuments etc. Entire town of St Peters was owned by Knauer family til about 1978. Has had its ups and downs since. Mostly downs. Put on National Historic Registry in 2003. Looks like it did 100 years ago. Would make a great place for a Model T car show. A few dozen early Fords would look right at home there. Best time to come is weekends. Not much open other than the Bakery during the week.
I have a lot of pix of the Model T truck.
Does Dropbox work for this?
The serial number date of 92 years ago today is confirmed by the wide pedals and the large brake drums, 26-27 features to be expected in the 1926 model year. Barring any surprises we haven't seen, I'd go with the serial number and say November 1925 for an early 1926 model. We haven't seen the engine yet, but I expect it has an engine-mounted coil box and the fan pulley mounted on the water outlet.
Cool, but from the pictures and your original pictures, it looks like someone put he body on a newer chassis. Fenders are definitely different between the original pic and your pics. - Matt
By "original pic" which one do you mean? All I have are pix taken of the Barn Find, and another pic taken back in the day about 1915 or so of an original different truck.
Ok, I thought the original 1915 pic was of your barn find. Thus my comment of the newer runnin gear. It didn't cross my mind that they may have had more than one truck. - Matt
The photo show lot of details to confirm the chassis is Improved Car, after Aug 1925 so it is a "1926" model year Ford Model T.
Headlamps are fender mounted on '26 fenders, hood, and frame and engine all are 1926 model year too.
The body is still in good shape, but the missing 'link' main part is the upper cowl. Back in the day adding a body to an open car chassis would need a fabricated cowl. The std. open car cowl contained the gas tank, your barn find will have an oval gas tank under the seat and mounted on the frame.
Somewhere the cowl got taken off, and that part will have to be made up as there is no firewall now. So there is a big 'gap' between the hood and where the firewall/cowl should be.
Here is typical 1926 aftermarket body on a 1926 chassis and shows flat wood firewall made to use the chassis and have the hood fit to it.
This one isn't a 1926 but shows a rounded 'cowl' part to allow the hood to fit, as the body sets back. Your barn find will need some type of cowl or firewall made to fit the hood to the body, or else that body is set way back, but doesn't appear to be in the photos.
Actually, looking again, do think perhaps the body is just set back after being removed for some reason, which perhaps was removing of the steel fire wall. That part and some fabricated curved hood support would be needed. Then the body and hood and rear fenders will line back up.
Missing firewall now
Rear fender shows body is back as the imprint of the fender line shows further back.