Dropped axles and Phillips head screws

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2017: Dropped axles and Phillips head screws
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Patterson. Australia. on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 05:24 pm:

Hi,
I know that Phillips head screws didn't come into existence in the teens, but when exactly did they arrive on the scene?
There's not one of the things in either of my T's, and I'll keep it that way, even the Speedster.

And what about dropped front axles for Speedsters?
Did they exist in the teens and 20's?
Does anyone know when someone first successfully dropped one a couple or more inches?

Thanks and Cheers,
Rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 05:28 pm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_F._Phillips


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem S.E. Michigan on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 05:44 pm:

Dropped axles were available as aftermarket items. Mercury produced them for instance. Read, "Model T in Speed and Sport"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 06:33 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Patterson. Australia. on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 07:14 pm:

Thanks for taking the time to answer gents. Its much appreciated........and my apologies for not taking the time to look it up on Wikipedia.
Cheers,
Rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 11:48 pm:

My 1951 Ford truck has Phillips head screws holding the window lifts to the doors.
The 51 cars also had a few crosshead screws.
I donít know of any earlier than Ď51.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 11:55 pm:

My 1951 Ford truck has Phillips head screws holding the window lifts to the doors.
The 51 cars also had a few crosshead screws.
I donít know of any earlier than Ď51.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, November 12, 2017 - 01:43 am:

Phillips screws were first used on vehicles in the late thirties.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George John Drobnock on Sunday, November 12, 2017 - 01:36 pm:

Thank Henry Philips...
https://www.google.com/patents/US2046837
Means for uniting a screw with a driver
US 2046837 A


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed Archer Hayward, CA. on Monday, November 13, 2017 - 04:55 pm:

I haven't seen any documentation of a dropped T front axle appearing prior to 1921.

Ed aka #4


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Thursday, November 16, 2017 - 03:36 pm:

From a maintenance standpoint Phillips head screws are easier to deal with when removing one that's seized or rusted up. That goes for any type of vehicle, equipment or etc.

They were an improvement over slot heads in that regard.

If they were readily avaliiable during the teens and twenties Ford would have used them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Thursday, November 16, 2017 - 11:16 pm:

That's a bit questionable, as Henry hated to pay anyone to use an idea. The Robertson screw was presented to him, and he turned it down, although the Canadian Ford used them a lot.


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