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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2017: Engine swap
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Vandevelde on Monday, November 13, 2017 - 10:39 pm:

has anyone installed a model A motor and tranny in a model T car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommy coffey on Monday, November 13, 2017 - 10:50 pm:

Not me. A friend of mine however, has a 26 Coupe body on a model A chassis. It has the A fenders.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noel D. Chicoine, MD, Pierre, SD on Monday, November 13, 2017 - 11:08 pm:

I saw a nice 26 coupe this fall at an auction that had a Model A running gear and engine. It had Model T fenders and looked T until you saw the engine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Conger - Wyoming on Monday, November 13, 2017 - 11:30 pm:

Yes, I've seen one. Why on earth anyone would want to do this is beyond me. It is no longer a T and no longer an A. They were both nice looking kludges that had to cost 3 or more times more than both donor cars put together, and have a potential buyer base of about 10. To each his own, I suppose.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nevada Bob Middleton on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 12:19 am:

I seen a TT with ford 8N tractor motor


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Killecut on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 06:34 am:

I've seen two with Ford V8 60's


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By FreighTer Jim on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 07:34 am:

It would be a TA .......

Or an AT ......

FJ


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 07:57 am:

One of the problems would be braking, since the T's service brake is in the transmission - maybe the swap could include the rear axle from the Model A too, giving a little better rear brake than the T's parking brakes. The Model A's transmission would be a downgrade from the T - the T transmission is a wonderfully smooth half automatic compared to the unsynchronized crash box in the A.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 09:27 am:

I've seen a 1910 Rolls Royce body on a Pinto chassis.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem S.E. Michigan on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 09:38 am:

Steve,

That must have cut down considerably on the maintenance cost of the Rolls.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Rogers - South of the Adirondacks on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 09:54 am:

Apparently none of you have read some previous threads.

Anyone can do anything they like with their T and we all have to accept it...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, Mostly in Dearborn on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 10:15 am:

I own one. The only reason I bought it was to put it out of its misery. It was a bargain and it came with a nice set of fenders.

It was sold to me after the previous owner realized all the re-engineering was costing him a fortune. He had shortened the chassis and rear axle and murdered a Model A frame trying to make everything fit. The frame he created is heavier than a stock Model A frame. The radiator is Model A with a modified Model T surround. That radiator is sitting on the edge of my mezzanine as a reminder not to do stuff like this. He had problems with the hood fitting too. I have the hood shelves from the project and they had to be reworked.

I think in his mind, the guy wanted more power and better brakes. He should have bought a Model A.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 10:19 am:

If it isn't your T, Tim, you have no right to say squat. Don't have to accept it, but you can ignore it


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Vandevelde on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 - 11:25 pm:

A friend of mine wants to sell me a model T with a Datsun motor and transmission in it. It has a brake on the drive-shaft. I was thinking of putting a model A motor and tranny in it. I could try find a T motor but he has an A with it which would give it more power to make the hill on my driveway. The previous owner couldn't make the hill on his driveway. Unless someone knows how to double the power on a T, for example a stroker. Thanks for all the comments.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 02:00 am:

That must be quite a hill. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 03:06 am:

One of our club members runs a Pinto set up in his Fordor. It seems to work OK but.....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommy coffey on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 05:32 am:

Steve, a Rolls Royce body on a Pinto! That makes me remember two old sayings... Just because you can dosen't mean you should, and you can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter. I don't think the DMV in NC would allow some of these "creations" to be operated on the highway, legally.
Also, Pinto running gear brings to mind the Shay(sic) cars that I believe some Ford dealers sold in the late 70s and early 80s. Anybody own one? I would drive one of them. I think they made coupes and roadsters. Don't remember seeing any other body styles. No original A parts were used if I remember correctly.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donald Conklin on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 12:25 pm:

Years ago I saw a T with a model A engine. The car had a A engine with a T transmission. This was years before cell phones so I don't have any pictures, but I sure wish I did.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Phil Mino, near Porterville on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 12:41 pm:

These images were posted some time ago on the forum. I didn't make note of the author.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Bowker, Ramona, CA on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 12:55 pm:

George Coffin (RIP) use to have a T coupe with Ford V8 running gear. It sure moved along. He did it because he could :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 03:41 pm:

Followed this green coupe on tour and wondered how it accelerated so quick from stop lights, and the exhaust sounded not T :-)

At the tour stop, saw the hood lifted and took these pics!





Only remember some of the answers to my questions, but recall the oiling system from the T trans needed plumbing as the A oil pump sucked it from the sump too much, and the water pump on the A had rework as a normal A pump will hit the Model T radiator.

But the creature ran fast for a 2-speed T coupe :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willis Jenkins on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 11:54 pm:

A lot of people seem to not like these abomination vehicles that some people strive to create. But, there were back in the day, people that put Chevrolet heads on T blocks. Even today some people are doing it. It's not all Ford, but it works.
Nothing quite like an overhead valve train!

Cheers,
Willis


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