Old Photo - Brass Era - Model T's At A Car Show

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - 07:16 am:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn-Monroeville OH on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - 08:43 am:

Very cool! Thanks Jay! Nice to see 'em before their owners get them all pigged up. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - 08:48 am:

Interesting.
The sign on the back of the tent is advertising 1916 Overlands, yet the Fords appear to have brass trim on the lights which is considered to be a 1915 feature!
More fuel for the controversies.
I suppose there could be an overlap in the model years, but that would take some research too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Idaho Falls on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - 11:19 am:

The new Overlands may have come out earlier than the new Fords. There is a nice selection of Ford parts in the back.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Andreasen on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - 11:29 am:

Wow........$440 for the Ford and $1095 for the Olds. No wonder Henry sold so many T's!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - 12:02 pm:

Fantastic photo. Wish there were more!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - 05:23 pm:

Actually, the 1915 cutoff for the HCCA was a poor choice. But we cannot go back half a century and change it then, nor can we change it now without hurting a lot of people one way or another.
Studebaker I KNOW, Hudson and Overland I have been told, all brought out their "1916" models early. Studebaker in June of '15, and Hudson and Overland I believe about July of '15. So it would be likely that Ford would still be selling cars with brass trimmed lamps while their competitors were beginning to offer the next year's model. Ford began black trimming lamps in July, with a crossover time from different assembly plants. So brass lamps would be in showrooms (and tents) for a couple months more.
Studebaker is unusual, in that NO 1916 model cars were built in calendar year 1916. Late December 1915, Studebaker dropped the "model year" designation opting instead for a "series" designation, making changes at their convenience rather than at model change time. Several major changes were made that December also, so there is no real doubt about a "1916" model Studebaker qualifying for the HCCA according to their current rules. Many other marques brought out their 1916 models early, but without the changes made in December or January, have some that qualify for the HCCA, and many that do not, and no simple guidelines to follow.
It is believed by some historians that the reason for this early model year change for so many marques, was that most businessmen knew that the war in Europe was going to soon involve the USA, whether we wanted it or not. They wanted to "beat the war to the punch" by selling "next years cars" early and making sales before material shortages (already a problem in '15) and wartime restrictions became serious.

The car on the other side of the Oldsmobile is an Overland. This was probably some sort of local Auto Show, likely held at a local Fairgrounds. It could have been as early as July, and probably not later than September '15.


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