What type of license plate / tail light bracket was typically used on a wood box type roadster pick up in the early twenties?
My 1923 runabout came to me with a side-mount running board spare tire holder. I removed it and installed the more typical rear tire mount. But I am planning to buy an original pick up box so that Iíll have the option of using the car as a roadster pickup on occasion by replacing the turtle deck with the box and reinstalling the side-mount tire tire holder.
You probably are aware, but there were no factory pick up boxes before 1925. Nice looking runabout
Yes, they were accessories. By the time Ford offered them the boxes were steel. The one Iím buying is vintage and was made for a Ford runabout so it will drop right in place of the turtle deck. Iíll store whatever is not being used (box or turtle deck) in the rafters of my tiny garage. It was built in 1919 so will feel right at home.
Cool. I thought about doing the same with our 27 roadster making it muti-purpose.
I'll post a correct photo when I get home.
Most owners would have fabricated some bracket to hang rear tail lamp. Could have been supported from the rear panel on the runabout or from the wood bed, usually under so the tail gate swing won't break it.
If you're going to be switching between roadster and pickup, I guess whatever you go with would be best mounted to the body frame or chassis. Or the fender(s) if you're okay with drilling holes in them. What I did on my wooden box pickup was to run a length of angle steel under the box that a set of simple home made light brackets bolted to. It looks right at home on the truck, and for a little lighter and more period look I tapered the ends.
The lights themselves are repop Model A units from Mac's because I wanted brake lights and they were the cheapest and most period-looking units I could easily get.
Never mind the license plate, it was just a piece of a pizza box for mockup purposes. You can at least get some idea of what's going on with the mount. If you're interested I can take some better pictures but it's fairly easy to make something up to suit.
Mark that is a really nice runabout. Those are one of my favorites.
Here is a photo of a correct genuine Ford license plate holder and taillight assembly for a 1925-27 Ford steel pickup box.
This is a shot of mine. I have a similar wood box to the one pictured above. My 18 roadster has not been restored.
Larry, just a little of topic, was there a factory spare tire carrier for the 25 pickup box?
Duane, no expert but not that I know of. I had a late 24/25 with box from the factory on it, no provisions for a tire carrier that I could see. Also looking at many photos from the various books I have not seen one either.
Here is what I did. The big red light is the brake light.
Here is the spare tire assembly that was on my Ď23 when I bought it. I removed it and installed the factory tire carrier on the back. When I put the pick up box on the car this side carrier will be returned to the running board.
Thanks everyone. I have managed to assemble a nice correct 25 pickup and have been working on how to mount the spare.
A pic of my 25 in whitefish at the international this summer.
No, there was no factory mounted tire carrier for 1925's anywhere. There was a company that used Ford spare tire carriers, and modified them to fit on the running board. That is the unit that is on Marks roadster above, but it's mounted in the wrong place. There are also two support pieces that were supplied to stabilize the unit.
Yes, the tire carrier and the wood pick up box would be accessory items for my Ď23. But thatís how a model T delivery type truck would have been made back then. Iíll be using all vintage parts and the best thing is that I can convert it to a factory runabout in a couple of hours.
I plan to put a portable darkroom in the pick up box so that I can shoot tintypes and glass negatives in the field.