What year do you think this is?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2017: What year do you think this is?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gus on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 01:00 pm:

I believe that it is a 1924 Coupe.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Philip thompson_graham nc on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 01:20 pm:

same wheels as my 24 touring


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert - Granby ,CT on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 03:16 pm:

Its a 24


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 03:22 pm:

24 and mighty purty too :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 03:46 pm:

The hand brake quadrant will date the frame, and that's a pretty good clue to the rest of the car. The serial number will date the engine, and that's also a pretty good clue.

If the hand brake quadrant has two rivets, it's 1925. Four rivets tell you 1924 or earlier. Other clues tell you it's not earlier than 1924 or later than 1925.

If you post the serial number (above the water inlet) I'll look up the engine date.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 05:22 pm:

Most '25 coupes did get the 21 inch balloon tire option, but that is what it was, an option. So some '25 coupes did have the clincher rims and tires.
The '24 and '25 coupes are quite distinctive in their style, and only made those two model years (although some were made during late '23, they are considered '24 models).
I haven't seen David S (our forum's resident '24/'25 coupe expert) on here for awhile. He could tell of many minor changes made in the construction of the bodies during those two years. And, unfortunately, my computer did a partial meltdown a couple weeks ago, and I lost all my bookmarks, so I can't currently find those past discussions. The big difference is in the construction of the doors. From a few feet away, they look alike. But the '24 coupe doors are wood framed, with a steel shell. The wood inside hidden behind the upholstery. The '25 coupe had steel framed doors, which weigh less. It usually isn't too difficult to peek under the door panel and see which type your car has. There was a short carryover late in the '24 model year when both type doors may have been used.
Steve J mentions the brake quadrant difference. There are a few other minor changes that could be indicators. The little data plate riveted onto the firewall changed. The '24 and earlier had square corners held by four rivets, while the '25 had clipped corners, and was held on by two rivets.

Nice car!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Chady on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 05:30 pm:

What is the see thru display behind it with the glowing wheels?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gus on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 06:31 pm:

This car is part of a display and my guess was that it is a 1924, or possibly a late 1923. It's displayed as a 1922 and is titled as a 1922. My guess is that it has a 1922 motor in it. As it is on display, I am not free to poop the hood and check the serial number on the engine. I was just looking for some opinions on the year from some Model T experts.

Here is a photo of the Coupe with the title of the plaque. I erased the rest of the information from the plaque as I don't want to reveal the location and owner of the car.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Keppler, Fredon NJ on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 07:01 pm:

Gus dont poop on the hood!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gus on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 07:16 pm:

Hmmmm ...

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Pawelek Brookshire, Texas on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 07:32 pm:

If it was a 1922 the doors would have opened from the front.....suicide doors!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - 08:30 pm:

I often comment how much more is known today about model Ts than when I got started in the hobby back in the '60s. I remember reading books and articles showing the '24/'25 coupes identified as earlier years, even as far back as 1917. There were discussions in the clubs, and truly nobody really knew when this style was or wasn't made. It was commonly believed that both the forward opening and rearward opening door coupes were being made from at least 1920 through 1924. People believed that either type could have been bought new, and that either the customer had a choice, or took whatever the dealer had on the floor at the time.
The truth was figured out more than thirty years ago. But there are still a lot of model T coupes out there that were misidentified 40 or 50 years ago, licensed incorrectly, and owners to this day believing what they were told when the got the car.
A closed mind is a pathetic thing.
Similar misinformation is found all through the antique car hobby.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 - 10:21 am:

I started to respond to this thread yesterday but didn't because I have a 24 Coupe and after looking at the pics of the car thought it was a really nice 24 and passed on.
After reading the later info that show the display information I have to to say it's NOT a 22 but a 24/25 Coupe.

The defining details are front hinged doors and the cowl vent. The minor details that can't be seen will tell whether it's a 24 or 25.
It probably was misidentified years ago or had the engine changed or ?
My Grandfathers 24 Coupe was often called a 24 or 25 at the inspection station years ago. I still have the inspection tickets up until he quit driving the car in 1954.


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