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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 12:58 am:

Wow! What a great cover!


Rich has come up with another winner. My favorite detail is the tourist with the 116 Kodak.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Harper - Keene, NH on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 02:38 am:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jeff Perkins / St. Croix Valley Mn on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 07:51 am:

Yes, another great painting by Mr. Eagle.
Steve...the camera in the painting looks like my Kodak Brownie Target Six-16 which is from the ‘40’s. Perhaps Richard can enlighten us on this detail.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 07:55 am:

1929 plates on Touring


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Osterman on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 07:58 am:

Yeah, that camera was introduced around 1933. But maybe those people are driving old cars and the camera was new. :-) The brownie cameras of the 1920s were a more simple design. Usually the black pebble finish leatherette.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Govoni Fredericksburg, VA on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 07:58 am:

Where's mine!!!! I Want I Want!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Perry Kete on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 08:30 am:

Beautiful cover thanks for posting it for us all to enjoy.

Rich, Thanks for sharing your talent with our hobby.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Jensen on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 08:44 am:

My favorite Vintage Ford cover so far! Is there a way to get a print of the cover? Maybe some kind of fund raiser for the Museum?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jeff Perkins / St. Croix Valley Mn on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 08:48 am:

Yes, I too would love to have that cover as a print.....count me in. That may be my all-time favorite cover!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn-Monroeville OH on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 08:52 am:

Fantastic. Can't wait to get mine!! Wish I had HALF as much artistic talent. Heck, I can't even draw a straight line with a ruler!! Ha ha. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 09:14 am:

This is yet another display of Richard's tremendous talent. Thanks,Rich.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vern (Vieux Carre) on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 09:26 am:

I especially like the Minnie Pearl hat.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Evan in Paso Robles on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 11:04 am:

Looks like the ghost of Buffalo Bill Cody with his daughter Irma in the touring.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 11:15 am:

OT - I don't know if Buffalo Bill ever drove a T, but he did drive a 1909 White Model O Steam car:


bill


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Bingham, Blackfoot, Idaho on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 11:35 am:

From the Idaho plate on the green touring car, Rich dated his painting in 1929. If that's Col. Wm. F. Cody, he looks pretty good for a guy who's been dead twelve years !

Some anachronism is part and parcel with artistic license. What a wonderful image Rich has created here !! Can't wait to get my copy !!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joseph Kowalczyk - Nampa Idaho on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 11:36 am:

Rich,

Your talent and imagination are outstanding, thanks for sharing.

Special, Thank You for selling me the 1923 Idaho License plate.

Joe


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 11:48 am:

Rich, Thank you for this wonderful painting!

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James J. Lyons III - West Virginia on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 11:59 am:

I must be the only one who doesn't get 'Vintage Ford" anymore. I quit the club back around 2007 because I thought the publication was severely lacking content. It was stuffed full of ads and marginal by way of quality photo's and technical info. It was mostly black and white too compared to the Times. Has it changed? How does it compare to the "Times"? JMO


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Susan Yaeger on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 12:05 pm:

We are very fortunate that Rich shares his talents with the MTFCA and Vintage Ford.

A very limited number of cover flats (cover art not folded, no staples) are available for sale through the MTFCA. Ready for your framing.

Cost is $15.00 including postage for mailing in the US.

If interested, send an email to: admin@MTFCA.com


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Doris, AZ on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 12:40 pm:

Rich, When I looked at the cover of the new Vintage Ford, my first thought was what a nice detailed painting, noted the 1929 Idaho license plate, next I see R. Eagle ’17! Incredible work!

The character in the touring looks akin to Buffalo Bill or the late Tuff McGowan of Custer, Idaho.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Idaho Falls on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 04:02 pm:

Thanks folks. The camera is a Target Six-20. I don't know how it relates to the other models. Vern recognized the Minnie Pearl hat. I just detached the price tag. I had been doing some Buffalo Bill sketches but the hat belonged to my Aunt Betty in the '40's. My black bear pictures were of a smaller bear but Dennis Seth convinced me that one large enough to peer into a Touring should be believable.

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Many of us are encouraged and motivated by forum discussions. Several suggested I do a cover painting. Susan and Aleesa were very good to work with in making this happen.

The painting is double the size it appears on the cover. I set up some models to get the perspective where I wanted. Some forum participants sent me some detail photos of their '26-'27 cars and the Coupe was worked up from mine and others.

I anxiously awaited the magazine. But I was so impressed by the articles within I almost forgot my painting was on the cover. The Vintage Ford continues to be a great magazine. Many others do much behind the scenes to make it wonderful.

Again Thanks
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Idaho Falls on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 04:23 pm:

Going through Yellowstone in the '50's we often counted 25 or so bears on the 30 miles between West Yellowstone and Old Faithful. Several pictures of them pop up now and then. Things do change.

This shows some detail:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 07:57 pm:

Rich-
Your artwork on the cover of the Vintage Ford is beautiful!

Even my wife pick up the magazine and admired your work.

I love your attention to detail. Well Done.

: ^ )

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By FreighTer Jim on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 08:59 pm:

That camera man looks a lot like the esteemed Jerry Kramer to me .....:-)

But that don’t look like Miss Kim and I don’t see Cosmo .....

Jerry has some explaining to do .... :-)

FJ


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john pawlowski - NE Pennsylvania on Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 09:04 pm:

Keeping my fingers crossed that I receive my magazine soon! I'm so jealous.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Friday, December 08, 2017 - 08:01 pm:

Rich,

What a great painting! And thank you so much for taking the time to create it for the cover!

And thank you to Aleesa our editor and all those that do so much to support and help our club.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Friday, December 08, 2017 - 11:58 pm:

Richard,
I haven't gotten my magazine yet, but what I see here on the forum looks fabulous! Typical of your work!
David D.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john pawlowski - NE Pennsylvania on Monday, December 11, 2017 - 08:48 pm:

Hello All, received my copy of The Vintage Ford today. Not to be redundant, but cover is spectacular. So much going on without need of explanation. Beautiful work. .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Albert Lemon on Monday, December 11, 2017 - 10:26 pm:

Received my frame ready print today from the MTFCA, thank you Rich and Susan, I'll have it framed tomorrow.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willis Jenkins on Monday, December 11, 2017 - 11:08 pm:

Susan,

Are there cover flats available for purchase for all Vintage Ford magazines or only certain issues?

Thank you,
Willis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan B on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - 06:49 am:

Beautiful work Richard. I am always amazed and inspired by your talents.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Susan Yaeger on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - 11:37 am:

Willis, we do have cover flats for most issues of the Vintage Ford going back to 2004. A single issue is shipped for a total cost of $15.00, including postage and handling.

If you noticed in the Nov-Dec issue, we are currently offering a special this month where you can get 10 cover flats for $10.00, plus shipping & handling. Those would be a random selection of covers, not a specific issue.

Hope that helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to email or phone me:
susan@mtfca.com
765-373-3106

Thanks!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Thursday, December 14, 2017 - 05:46 pm:

I just reupped today! lol


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By FreighTer Jim on Thursday, December 21, 2017 - 09:34 am:

As usual - I am a little slow ......

Had time to check mail before leaving town - was pleased to see my photo
of your Board Of Directors that I took from inside my trailer on Page 9.

What a great group of hardworking folks ..... :-)

FJ


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Mullins Spokane Wa. on Thursday, December 21, 2017 - 11:34 am:

Liked the cover but where is the Montana 500 Corner


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Thursday, December 21, 2017 - 11:59 am:

Just waiting for mine!!!!!

Andre
Belgium


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Thursday, December 21, 2017 - 06:22 pm:

Andre, I'm waiting too. Perhaps it is coming via Germany and Singapore again! Got my Model T times weeks ago.
Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Thursday, December 21, 2017 - 06:24 pm:

Andre, I'm waiting too. perhaps it is coming via Germany and Singapore again! Got my Model T Times weeks ago.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 08:03 pm:

Since I re upped this month, can I get this months issue?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 09:18 pm:

William, Call the MTFCA office and ask about getting the current issue. The number is 765-373-3106. Normal hours are from 9 to 5, Monday to Friday, but I don't know the Holiday hours.

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 11:32 pm:

Haven't got mine yet. Maybe I should pay my dues


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Saturday, December 23, 2017 - 03:37 am:

Uh, is a "cover flat" an unfolded print of the cover?
Rich's cover print is great! Maybe he or the club could make it available without the issue lettering on it?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Carnegie Spokane, WA on Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 01:56 am:

Bill, I guess the new editor or the "powers that be" decided that they don't want the "Montana 500 Corner".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Mullins Spokane Wa. on Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 05:23 pm:

To bad the Montana 500 is like a proving grounds for Model T's and you were going to tell all about it.People would benefit from this to make there cars to run better.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Kossor - Kenilworth, NJ on Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 06:21 pm:

Tom, Sorry to learn that, I enjoyed reading your Montana 500 Corner very much. Who knows, sounds like you may be back by popular demand and then can ask for a raise :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gene Carrothers Huntington Beach on Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 07:28 pm:

Tom,
That's terrible news, I expected to see that as a series but maybe not every month. The information you wrote about is very valuable to every Model T owner because you told about how to make a T run it best and for a long duration.

I know you have so many more endurance and speed "Secrets" that you were willing to share with us all. I hope you'll soon be back.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 09:46 pm:

Could it be that extra room was needed for the Bruce McCalley Library report ??? Hope to see the Montana 500 Corner next issue.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Vaughn - Lincoln, NE on Monday, December 25, 2017 - 12:21 am:

A few issues back the editor included a survey to the members and asked members to prioritize what they wanted to see in the Vintage Ford. The Montana 500 Corner was included on the survey, several hundred surveys were returned and surprisingly to me the Montana 500 Corner was ranked as one of the lowest priorities by the members that took the time to answer and return the survey. So as Tom stated “The powers to be” was our membership that answered the survey. Our editor is working very hard to insure the Vintage Ford contains what our members want to read. I’m sure that she will include future surveys so that she stays current on what the membership wants in the Vintage Ford. I too enjoyed many of Tom’s articles, especially his “how to” articles. For instance his “How to straighten wire wheels” article was excellent. That type of article received a very high priority in the survey. I’m very sure that anyone that submits a “how to” article will be given consideration by the editor.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Kossor - Kenilworth, NJ on Monday, December 25, 2017 - 01:48 am:

Mike, Thanks for the timely feedback. I missed the survey or simply skipped it and didn't bother to send it in. Glad to learn the Editor will include future surveys to stay current with what folks want to read and will make use of it next time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Carnegie Spokane, WA on Monday, December 25, 2017 - 07:56 am:

Mike wrote: "surprisingly to me the Montana 500 Corner was ranked as one of the lowest priorities by the members that took the time to answer and return the survey."

Wasn't surprising to me. I had a long conversation with the now editor before the survey was sent (I'm sorry, I forget her name). I predicted to her that exactly that would happen. Anyone who has studied statistical analysis could tell you why this method is very flawed and likely does not come any where close to reflecting the true desires of the membership at large. As such, in my opinion, a survey is no way to decide what content you put into a magazine. You cannot expect to have a dynamic magazine if you are reacting to the responses of a few people that return surveys.

Anyway, I am happy to not do it. It was a lot of work. To all of the folks who have gone out of their way to express to me their appreciation of the Montana 500 Corner during its short run, I thank you most kindly. :-) :-) :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By FreighTer Jim on Monday, December 25, 2017 - 08:07 am:

Hi Tom,

I was fortunate to meet you in person earlier this year.

I enjoyed reading your articles in The Vintage Ford & did not reply to the survey.

Please keep contributing as your busy schedule allows in whatever manner you find appropriate.

If folks have not been to Antique Auto Ranch in Spokane, WA - they need to visit.

FJ


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Perry Kete on Monday, December 25, 2017 - 08:48 am:

I don't mail in surveys but I would guess that they would get more replies if they did a survey on this forum site and compare the forum response with the magazine response but they need to take into account the number of members to the number of responses.
I enjoy the "Montana 500 Corner"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kirk Peterson on Monday, December 25, 2017 - 10:20 am:

Hopefully Tom's articles will return to the VF.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Mullins Spokane Wa. on Monday, December 25, 2017 - 11:20 am:

I didn't mail in the survey either,but it's hard for me to believe that we have one of the longest running T events on the calendar and someone who has the historical knowledge of the event and willing to write about it is a shame it's not included in the Vintage Ford.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Monday, December 25, 2017 - 02:04 pm:

Thanks Tom Carnegie, your efforts are appreciated.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aleesa Drennen-VF editor on Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 03:33 pm:

Thanks everyone for your comments and thoughts on the changes we have made to the Vintage Ford magazine. Sorry for the lengthy post, but I wanted to respond to a few specific posts in this thread.

• Cover Flats - You are correct, David Dewey, cover flats are unfolded covers. There are still some of Rich Eagle’s cover flats available through the MTFCA office. At this time we only offer cover flats. It is up to the individual photographers and artists to produce prints of their cover artwork (without the masthead), if they choose.

• Vintage Ford Membership Survey - In addition to serving as your editor, I own a marketing and graphic design company. Through the years I’ve done countless surveys. As Tom Carnegie stated, a survey only provides a small part of the picture. Survey response rates have been declining worldwide, so this survey is not the only ruler we will use to determine article content. (More on that later.)

The survey return rate was better than we had anticipated and some of the results did surprise us. There were areas of interest that scored fairly high, even though we had heard from members in the past that we included too much of this type of content. The areas that scored lowest typically had a few people rank them as their most favorite item and about an equivalent number rank them as their least favorite, but in general they were scored low by a large number of respondents.

I am also regularly reaching out to members to learn what they like most and least about the magazine. Since our forum is open to the general public, we started with a membership survey. We may do a forum/internet based survey in the future, since we consider all forum users as either an MTFCA member or a potential member. We also monitor popular forum topics for future article ideas. Basically our goal for the Vintage Ford is to ALWAYS have something in each issue that appeals to everyone and OCCASIONALLY have something that appeals to those with special interests. In other words, just because something scores low in our surveys or opinion polls, it doesn’t mean we won’t run an article on it now and then.

• Montana 500 Corner - We were surprised that Montana 500 related content was ranked low. Tom Carnegie’s Mar-April 2017 article on precision tuning wire spoke wheels was excellent with valuable tips for performance experts and novices. While we probably will not have a regular column for Montana 500 coverage in each issue, we will definitely continue covering and including this type of information in the Vintage Ford.

• Article Submission - Don’t assume we are only looking for one type of article or another. I grew up knowing I did not like cranberries, but recently I found two cranberry dishes that are fantastic. If I hadn’t been willing to try them, I would never have known cranberries can be delicious.

Fortunately you will never have to count on just my personal tastes. I have put together a cross section of MTFCA members as an Editorial Advisory Panel to review article submissions. The group is balanced geographically, demographically, and with varied Model T knowledge and special interests. Great technical and how-to articles will always be a high priority, but if you have an off-the-wall topic that is intriguing, send it in. You never know what might open someone’s eyes to new possibilities or new ways of enjoying their Model T.

In the future I am considering having a Forum Topic just for the Vintage Ford magazine with tips on submitting photos and articles, a place to suggest article ideas, and possibly a way to post additional information or photos on articles that we couldn't include in the magazine.

Your feedback is always welcome and encouraged!

Have a Safe and Happy New Year!

Aleesa


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