I know several members have an interest in old phonographs. I recently bought a Amberola 30, and would like to know is there a web site or face book,club or what have you that I could find. I am looking for someone that repairs the diamond C reproducer. Thanks Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year to all.
This'll get you started... Tom's Phonographs and Old Records, and for parts and repair, Wyatt's Musical Americana.
Very nice folks here:
I have dealt with Wyatt's concerning a Victor machine. I bought a spring and some needles many years ago.
Thanks Bruce and Scott very much appreciated.
I recommend Wyatt's Musical Americana also. They have done a number of reproducers for me, including the Edison C
I have collected Edison and Victor phonographs for almost 30 years.
The best on the planet when it comes to rebuilding Edison reproducers is Steve Medved.
He is extremely reasonable too!
PS A great site: The Talking Machine Forum
That's steve underscore noreen @msn.com
Wyatt only answers phone monday thru wednesday from 9am to about 1pm pacific time.
does great work.
172 Long Beach Ave.
Freeport, L.I., N.Y
Peter does phonograph work for the Edison Historic Site in West Orange, NJ
Ron Sitko rebuilt a Diamond B reproducer for us. First class work.
Please remember, a good diamond stylus replacement can be expensive, but better sound comes from an original Edison diaphragm with fresh gaskets adjusted correctly.
Gene I knew you would chime in on this thread
Here you go. It's just like this forum, but it's for phonographs. The advice above about Steve Medved is spot-on! He's the best and very reasonable as well.
Tim Graczyk is a MTFCA forum member...
I'm an Edison/old phonograph guy myself. I've rebuilt a Diamond C a while go. Don't remember a whole lot of details, though, so don't quote me on all of this, but here it goes.
The stylus usually doesn't require replacement. They last a LONG time! They are ball shaped, but only part of it touches the record, so usually you can rotate it and find a good spot if one has gone flat. The stylus is held in with wax, so a low temperature soldering iron is all it takes to loosen it up. Use a pair of good tweezers, LIGHT pressure on them, and a powerful magnifying glass.
The diaphragms hold up well, but new ones can be had if yours happens to be bad. The number one thing that kills them are the gaskets, which go bad and require replacement. Usually a new set of gaskets is all that's needed to get an Edison Diamond C (or most other reproducers, for the matter) back up to snuff.
I sent it to Steve Noreen, thanks all, will see how it turned out. Sam
The procedure you described is for a "C" 4-minute wax cylinder reproducer...used on the Standard, Fireside, & other outside horn machines. The stylus was a sapphire with a ball end, and when worn could be turned to expose a new surface to the cylinder.
The Diamond C reproducer is for the Blue Amberol 4 minute cylinders. The Diamond C reproducer was used on the Amberola series machines...30, 50, 75...the conical diamond tip was positioned in the stylus bar and held in place with Edison's proprietary method. When worn, stylus bar with diamond tip gets replaced.
I think you meant that the "C" is a 2-minute wax cylinder reproducer and not a 4-minute?
For further clarity, the "C", (2-minute)
The "Diamond C", (4-minute)
I believe Mark at Model T Haven has an interest in the old machines....
Mine is The Diamond C (4 minute) off a Amberola 30
Jerry..... thank you for correcting. appreciated !
You are totally right. I got the two mixed up
I've never rebuilt a Diamond C. What I worked on was a Model C for a two minute wax cylinder. Then as my cylinder collection rapidly built up with Blue Amberols, I rebuilt a Model K for my Home.
Cameron, I certainly would like to meet you some time. I have never met another model t'er who was into Edisons, and in Oklahoma. I have an Edison Gem, four standards, two homes, three firesides, and a triumph. An Amberola 30 and an amberola V. Three diamond discs and a number of Columbia and victor machines. Correction, I have been to Iola, Ks. and seen Mr. Friemeyers great collection of phonographs and model T parts. Ed
Eddy Lee & Cameron:
My collection has a Amberola V, VI, X, Diamond Disc S-19, C-19, and a working Factory Testing frame with the C-19 bedplate & 250 horn.... not really in your area of Oklahoma.... ( N.J. )
Eddy Lee, I think there are a lot of T'ers that collect. Here's a list of my machines:
Edison Triumph A with Cygnet Horn
Edison Maroon Gem
Edison Banner Lid (Suitcase)
Victor II (Humpback)
Keen-O-Phone (floor model, open horn)
Victor 50 (portable)
Victor 50 (table model)
Jerry Van also is a collector.
Absolutely. If you ever happen to be here in OKC, look me up!
Unfortunately, I have only my Edison Home, (plus several Victrolas), but that doesn't mean I don't want more! I would love to have an Amberola 30 and a Diamond Disc
Oh poo, I only have one! My C-19 Edison Diamond and about 60 records bought by my relatives on Dad side.
I have an early phonograph (not sure of year or model or even where it is right now in the attic) that has an oak wooden 'morning glory' horn that has deteriorated. Who restores these horns or who makes reproductions? Sorry, I just saw this thread and have not read all the way through it so perhaps this has already been answered.
Oh no, Marty outed me!