Does anyone own an untrestored '13 roadster with the original tail light bracket and mounting nuts?
I need to know if the nuts are 7/16" across the flats, or 1/2"? I know this is trivia, but that's the way I am!
Try Glen Chaffin, I think he has a original 13 roadster, Bob
Larry, this is off a touring, the nuts are 1/2. I don't see why Ford would use different ones for the roadster. You can also check with Webb, his roadster is pretty original.
I guess I'll go with the 1/2" across the flats. It's strange that all the square nuts up front are all 7/16! That lamp bracket is identical to the one on my '13 runabout.
So then, a "neverout" bracket is an accessory ?
Neverout license plate brackets are accessories. I prefer the blade variety, but the round mount works too, it just doesn't give the support, in my opinion that the blade does.
Yes, the "Neverout" bracket was an accessory for hanging a license plate !
New old information. The taillight bracket used on roadsters in 13-14 is the same bracket as used on the 1909-12 Touring cars. The factory part number is the same too, but the factory number changed in 1914. The photo Kim posted above is the same bracket. All this information can be found in the 1913-14 parts books.
Here is some more new old information. The parts book only shows the bolts for this bracket from 1909-1912, so assuming the body wood thickness is the same in 1913-14 on the roadster, it should take the same bolt. Ford must have had these bolts made specifically for this purpose, as they are not a standard bolt at all. Here is the p/n for this bolt: Factory # 3661, parts book # 1614. Apparently, the nut was 1/2" across the flats. The head diameter is .0640".