well, not quite.... DURN!
Even if it's a bitsa it seems to me like $12K is pretty decent if it's close to running, no?
Looks much more like a 1915-16. $15,000 sounds like a good price if running.
For starters, it's a 1915 not a 12.
Frank is right. It's a 1915. From what I can see of it in its dark hidey hole fifteen grand is a pretty ambitious price.
Does the pool go with it?
For $15 G's, the pools had darn well better be included.
Has anyone contacted the seller to explain what year the T really is? Likely it's someone who inherited the T and has no clue.
What I see: a much later car mocked up to look like a 1915 Ford.
1917 or later body (see notch in cowl)
Square felloe wheels
Square top sockets (1918 or later)
Also - it's the same old story. I want to sell my car but can't take a decent photo to save my soul. Also, I really don't know what I own.
It has the extremely rare automatic transmission.
Just a little levity.
I notice the description says "restored". Uh-huh.
Well, at least it's got a water pump...
Just a little more levity.
Hmmmmm,....It does have a 1915 New Jersey plate, but then there's that aluminum hogshead.....
I love looking at pictures of black cars parked in a cave...my first thought is, what is the seller trying to hide? To me, if you want that kind of money, you need to put on a show. My parents taught me that there are no free lunches, everything has a price. They want an offer, ok, I offer $1500 sight unseen, am I trying to steal their car, no, but for that kind of money, they need to wow me. I think that they are just lazy and don't want to work at merchandising their car. In short this advertisement pisses me off. MHO Wes
David Dewey makes a good point. Many times the seller has little knowledge of the car and only what Grampa said. Some don't have the knowledge, resources or time to set a realistic price (whatever that is). They may worry about being taken just as a buyer might be.
The Ford flathead V-8 called a 1927 is another example of a "best guess".
Rich, I agree. But I would add a couple of words. "...and only what they think Grampa said." If you've ever played Telephone, you know how word of mouth gets scrambled.
Good point Steve.
here's its kissin' cousin from the same sight- at a slightly higher price! :
A parade car - a fun and drive car - worth perhaps $9000 if it runs and drives okay. Call it a 1915, but it is really a "Look-a-like".
All T's are the same, huh ??
When I first took a look at the pics I first thought it was a 18-21 with the earlier firewall and hood off a 15-16. It seems to be a decent car but it's definitely not a 12.
32K for that 1916???? Shoot, you could buy that pretty authentic 1910 Tourabout for less!
Aluminum hogs heads were being put on cars into December 1915, look at the pics of engine #1,000,000 from Dec 10, 1915.
I didn't get a chance to see the other detail photos with the notched cowl and the square top bows--dang'd dial-up!