Hayes vs Ford K 30 X 3 1/2 demountable rims

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2009: Hayes vs Ford K 30 X 3 1/2 demountable rims
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Boothroyd on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 12:39 am:

I have four Hayes 30 X 3 1/2 demountable rims on my 1922 T.
It came with an extra Ford K 30 X 3 1/2 demountable rim.
I held the Ford rim next to one of the Hayes rims and it appears as though they are the same.
Will a Ford K rim fit the wheels that use the Hayes rim? I thought that they were not interchangeable.
I want to mount a tire on the Ford K rim and use it as a spare.

Regards,

Steve Boothroyd


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By "Hap" (Harold) Tucker on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 02:03 pm:

Steve,

1. On your profile, I do not see any hinges on the left front door stamping of your car, so I assume your Model T is a 1922 USA and NOT a Canadian car. [The Canadian cars used demountable rims with the loose lugs – I believe they were produced by Kelsey and were a copy of the USA Kelsey 88. If anyone has information to confirm or correct that belief please let us know.]

2. Both the Hayes and Ford rims with the permanently attached lugs are interchangeable. Ref Jan 1924 Service Bulletin shown below:



3. You are correct that Ford did NOT want folks to mix many of the rims – which were also discussed above. Caution – many other companies also produced rims – and some will fit with minor modifications (Chevy Clincher rims – move the valve stem hole) while others may not.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap Tucker 19l5 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charles W. Little on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 04:25 pm:

What does a Ford K rim look like? Or, to put it another way, how is it different from the Ford 2845B in the service bulletin picture above?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Boothroyd on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 06:47 pm:

Yes Hap, mine is a US produced T.
I will have a look at the rim more closely and see if it appears as in the service bulletin.
I don't know at this time how it may be different, only that it is marked Ford K on the permanently attached lugs.

Regards,

Steve Boothroyd


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Boothroyd on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 09:34 pm:

I had a good look at the lugs on the Ford K rim and it looks like the Ford 2845 B rim.
Thanks for the info.

Regards,

Steve Boothroyd


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