Demountable rims -- what year?

Topics Last Day Last Week Tree View    Getting Started Formatting Troubleshooting Program Credits    New Messages Keyword Search Contact Moderators Edit Profile Administration
Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2009: Demountable rims -- what year?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Coco on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 06:10 pm:

I have a 1910 Hudson touring, complete, missing body. In sending pictures to prospective buyers, they tell me the wheels are possibly Model T. 12 spoke, front and back (unusual in itself, usually front wheels on a Hudson were 10 spoke, rear 12 spoke), demountable rims with 5 bolts each, 30 x 3.5 inch tires. Do those sound like T wheels? How can I tell if the hubs are T or Hudson? If so, what year first used them, if I can't sell the car and need to buy rims for the car, will need to know how to market them. Thanks David Coco Winchester Va.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Layden B on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 06:18 pm:

With 5 bolts, the wheels would not be original equipment for Model Ts. Could be either aftermarket or off some other make of car. Pictures would be a big help.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce Peterson on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 06:29 pm:

Firestone made a wood fellow 5 lug demountable wheel as early as 1911 that munted a 30 X 3 1/2 tire. These accesory wheels could have been installed on.your car long ago.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Coco on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 08:41 pm:

a picture of the back of the front wheel


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Coco on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 08:42 pm:

a picture of the back of the front wheel


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Coco on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 08:44 pm:

Having trouble, here is outside picture of rear wheel, sorry, not the best quality, in my storage warehouse and dark.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Dearborn on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 08:58 pm:

There was a 1909 Hudson roadster at Greenfield Village this weekend, and it looked like it would have larger tires than 30x3.5, but mebbe not. It wasn't all that big. Sorry now I didn't take pix of it.

If you can figure out the gross weight the car must have had on each axle, then you would know if those tires can handle the load.

rdr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Coco on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 09:05 pm:

Good information, thanks. The Hudson apparently had larger wheels originally, I think 34 x 4.5 which would be a 25 inch rim (34 - (2x4.5). These are of course 23 inch rims (30 - (2x3.5). The pictures in the ad you show look exactly like the wheels on the car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Coco on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 09:11 pm:

Good information, thanks. The Hudson apparently had larger wheels originally, I think 34 x 4.5 which would be a 25 inch rim (34 - (2x4.5). These are of course 23 inch rims (30 - (2x3.5). The pictures in the ad you show look exactly like the wheels on the car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Coco on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 09:15 pm:

OK, so the Hudson for 1910, touring, weighed 2000 pounds. On 4 wheels, 500 pounds each wheel, 50 PSI in tires, needs 50 x 10 or 10 square inches contact surface to support weight. 3.5 inches wide tread, so 3 linear inches of support area each tire, sounds OK.
Looked at the bible of old cars, and the Model T for 1910 is listed as 900 pounds chassis, 1200 pounds with touring body. A touring body with all metal, wood, leather, and stuffing, only 300 pounds? Is that right for an early T?

Sorry for double posts, I'm seeing windows on my computer that don't compute. David Coco Winchester Va.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Dearbonr Inn on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 09:28 pm:

Add 3 or 4 FAA standard weight bodies at 170 lbs to the rear load, plus things like a rear mounted spare, and it gets serious. IIRC, the 30x3.5 clincher is rated at 650 lbs.

rdr


Add a Message


This is a private posting area. Only registered users and moderators may post messages here.
Username:  
Password:

Topics Last Day Last Week Tree View    Getting Started Formatting Troubleshooting Program Credits    New Messages Keyword Search Contact Moderators Edit Profile Administration