I JUST BOUGHT THIS CAR AND THE STEERING WHEEL HAS A KEY IN ONE OF THE SPOKES, AND WHEN I TURN IT,IT WON'T GO ALL THE WAY, AND HAVE SOMEONE PULL DOWN ON TWO SPRING LOADED STEMS, ONE ON EITHER SIDE OF SPOKE THE KEY IS ON, THE WHELL WILL SPIN FREE WHEELING...I COULD USE A FAT MAN'S WHEEL, SO IS THIS ONE, AND IF SO, HOW DO I MOVE IT...THANKS FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE ME...JACK ROSSI, '25 FUN-A-BOUT
Recommend you post a picture. Your words sound like it might be an anti-theft device or a Fat Man steering wheel – but from your description I’m not sure. The Fat Man wheel normally moved out of the way so the driver could sit down in the seat more easily The anti-theft device would cause the steering wheel to “free-wheel” and not turn the front wheels or to lock the wheel. And there were probably some that did both.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/92787.html new reproduction but shows how that style works for moving the wheel out of the way.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/102409.html early one in the open position.
Part of a fatman steering wheel: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/97834.html
The northwest Vintage Speedster site has lots of “fat man” steering wheels --- it made it easier to get into the speedsters even if you are not fat.
That style pops ups a lot.
Humble Howard’s #7 look at the third picture down: http://www.nwvs.org/CarPhotos/007A/007A.shtml
First photo at: http://www.nwvs.org/CarPhotos/012B/012B.shtml and another view at:
Not a T but a fat man wheel: http://www.nwvs.org/CarPhotos/017/017.shtml
A couple of pictures would allow folks to have a much better feel for what you are describing. Also be careful and do not force the key/lock.
Hap Tucker l915 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and l907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC.
I'LL TAKE SOME PICS RIGHT NOW. HAP....MY PROBLEM IS GETTING THIS PC TO SEND THEM...THANKS FOR SO MUCH INFO, I REALLY ENJOYED THE LINKS...IS THAT YOU , THE LITTLE BOY IN THE PIC WITH THE CONVERTED PICK-UP???
POSTED SOME PICS HAP. TO YOURE-MAIL....HOPE THIS SHOWS MY PROBLEM...I DO BELIEVE YOUR IDEA THAT IT IS A THEFT DETERRENT IS THE RIGHT ONE...NOW I NEED TO KNOW HOW I CAN PUT IN A REAL FAT MAN'S WHEEL...JACK
Would you post the pix for us all to see??
PS everybody use lower case, please. It is easier to read.
Noel, Jack have in another post told us he has problems with his eyes, so it makes it easier for him to read what he writes with upper case letters.
THANKS MICHAEL, ALSO HAVE TROUBLE TRYING TO USE CAPITAL LETTERS AND SHIFTING....GOING ON 83, BUT OLD INJURIES SOMETIMES DISTRACT ME, BUT THE T MODEL FORD JUST MAKES ME HAPPY ALL OVER...WISH I KNEW HOW TO SHIFT IT, ETC...MY MANUALS GOT LOST BUT ARE BEING RE-SHIPPED BY BOOKS 4 CARS....JACK...DID YOU GET MY PICS, HAP ??
you might try typing in all lower case and see if you are able to read it ok and if folks like that any better. you may surprise them and they will think you are much younger. if you have internet explorer on a pc – like mine, if you look in the lower right hand corner of the window it has a magnifying glass with a “+” sign in it. you can click the down arrow and select 125 or 150 and the letters are a lot easier to read.
sorry it took so long to get your pictures posted. i was traveling, a little sick, got home late, and there was nothing in the title that said model t so it almost got deleted in the spam folder. i have added your e-mail address so it won’t go to the spam folder – but adding model t in the title will get it read way ahead of the penneys or sears sales stuff. below are the photos – i’m sure lots of folks will recognize what type of wheel it is. i remember seeing that style before, but i don’t remember what type it was.
hap tucker l915 model t ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and l907 model s runabout. sumter sc.
sorry about the large type....did not mean to cause so much trouble....hap, i thought the pics had a title. but i missed it...will do better as i go along, it you all let me....i am so bewildered by this simple machine, that i can't wait to get my manuals and learn a few things.....i built three airplanes in the eaa, and have rebuilt many motorcycles and race cars, but jay leno's speech made me a little worried when i read and listened model t experts...shifting on mine does not seem to work , so i won't touch it till i see the manuals....thanks for the help, fellas.....jack, '25 roadster.....
Hap and Jack
With a little imagination and a lot of staring at the badge in Jack’s photos
of his steering wheel, I think that I make out the name “Lazear _ _ _ _ _ Wheel.
If so perhaps one of the following patents issued for a locking steering wheel may be
a close match in design, (or to what appears to be a patent date at the top of the badge).
None of the patents are for a “Fat Man” style wheel
Here are the details
Leroy C. Lazear
Patent number: 1311130
Filing date: Aug 1916
Renewed: February 21 1919
Issue date: Jul 22, 1919
Patent number: 1511227
Filing date: Apr 5, 1919
Issue date: Oct 14, 1924
Patent number: 1714914
Filing date: May 1, 1919
Renewed: July 6 1922
Issue date: May 1929
Thank you so much for tracking that down. From the patent drawing we have:
And that closely resembles the wheel that Jack has. In the patent drawing the wheel is dished up quite a bit (center part is lower than rim) but that center section is very close. I believe you have found the answer for that one.
I need to learn to use the Google Patent search. That was extremely helpful for this one. And as you stated, it is a locking steering wheel and not the fat-man type wheel.
Again thank you for your help.
Hap Tucker l9l5 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and l907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC
HEY HAP. I JUST FINISHED READING THE WHOLE PATENT APPLICATION BY LEROY LAZEAR FOR MY STEERING WHEEL....THANK YOU AND ALL THE GUYS AND MR. McCALLEY FOR SUCH A TRMENDOUS IN-DEPTH SEARCH TO DICOVER THE THE TRUE PURPOSE OF MY WHEEL....IT IS SUCH A GOOD THEFT DETERRENT, I WONDER WHY IT IS NOT USED TODAY....EXPENSE PROBABLY....I AM JOINING THE TIN LIZZIES IN THE VILLAGES AND WAITING FOR AN APPLICATION FOR THE MODEL T INTERNATIONAL, WHICH YOU MUST BELONG TO, TO QUALILFY...STILL HAVEN'T REC'D MY MANUALS FROM "BOOKS 4 CARS" IN THE WEST COAST.....
JACK '25 RAGTOP FLIVVER