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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry Sutherland on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 11:09 pm:

"T" drivers are like no others from what I can see so I have to ask this question-do any of you guys in Northern climates drive your car year round? If you do, what's that like?
thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Arthur Dewey Asher on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 11:55 pm:

I live in Illinois--and drive mine year around. Of course I take it to florida November thru May. Sorry--just couldnt resist. Dewey


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 12:42 am:

I can't tell you what it's like, but in our club, The Dairyland Tin Lizzies in South East Wisconsin, we have one member who drives his '13 Depot Hack all year, except on the very worst days. He even puts a wreath on the front during the Christmas season. He does have a modern car for his wife though.

Fordially, Keith Gumbinger


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 03:18 am:

I haven't had it long enough yet, but I intend to drive our '25 coupe as much as possible this winter in N.W. MO. Just took my daughter and grandson for a ride this evening. I would like to take it out in the snow at least once to see what it's like, but our town is very hilly. It may be a little more exciting than I want! Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 07:38 am:

Driving in the snow (I'm better at driving in snow than posting photos now :-) )

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 07:39 am:

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 07:41 am:

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce Peterson on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 08:52 am:

Driving in the snow is fun sometimes. This is the unrestored '13 I sold to Charlie Jenkins a few months ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm204mSzN9M


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 09:25 am:

These cars were driven in all kinds of weather at all times of the year when they were most people's daily driver. I'd be less worried about the T's fitness for winter than I would about somebody with a modern car sliding into me. My Packard narrowly escaped being crunched that way.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 12:44 pm:

Some people buy 4-wheel drive without thinking, and not appreciating they still have just 4-wheel brakes.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 01:45 pm:

I took all three (one at a time) out on New Years Day. Here is a picture of them New Years 2009. Of course, here the weather is almost the same year around but colder. It gets up to 50 or 60 in January, but is cold at night. Sometimes below freezing. As long as the sun comes out it usually warms up during the day.
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Rosenkrans on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 01:59 pm:

I drive mine year round here in Philadelphia. It doesn't get terribly cold or snowy, but enough. I don't drive them if I know there's alot of salt on the road surface, but otherwise I follow the maxim that that things go wrong with machinery that isn't used. Bundle-up and go.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern Ca. on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:14 pm:

Rob, Those white tires on white wire wheels look neat in the snow!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Deichmann on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:18 pm:

If I had to go to work (50 km) and the weather had made the authorities to ban all unnecessary driving (whatever that is) my last resort would be to drive in the T - simply because it narrow tires will go much better than any modern car.
In snow - the narrower the better. Those "wideangle" tires on the 4x4 is of no use - they just remain on top of the snow.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:40 pm:

The Model T club in St. Louis has participated in the St Patrick's Day parade here every year since the parade started in 1970. In 2000, it had been snowing for a while by the time we all woke up and was still snowing pretty hard. After phoning around, we all decided not to go. Then I got to thinking that we had always been in the parade and it would be a shame to break our record. I figured I'd set out for downtown and if it got too difficult, I'd turn back and no one would be any the wiser. I did have to stop at an AutoZone on the way to buy a squeegee because the snow was building up on my windshield. The round trip from my house to downtown is about 25 miles.

Not only was ours the only Model T in the parade, it was the only antique car. A friend along the route took this picture.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:58 pm:

Colorado in June:

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 04:37 pm:

I usually drive T's the year around if the road is dry and salt free.I don't know where people find the Super T's they have that are good in the snow?? Ours are like hogs on ice and without chains Almost Worthless! Any modern front wheel drive car is 10 times better on snow and ice than any old car,and i have been snow and cold all my life.Rember,You heared it here first,snow,cold,and ice-HUMMBUG!!! Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend, Gresham, Orygun on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 12:53 am:

Here is my '15 in the snow we had in Portland last winter. Over a foot and a half. Most snow we've had is forty years.

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Keith

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William Harper on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 02:26 am:

Jerry,
I have been known to drive my cars during the winter months here in New Hampshire. I don't take them out during a storm (don't need someone sliding into me) nor when the roads are white with "salt".

You asked: what's it like? Well, the first hurdle is getting poor ol' Lizzie started. I keep my cars in good tune and have the clutch and the parking brakes correctly adjusted. I will not claim that the cars readily spring to life, they do need a bit of extra coaxing, but I have not had to jack up a rear wheel. I do chock both front wheels and use 5W-30 oil. I have started the 1914 touring (stem winder) in temps down to 10 above zero (F) and the 1924 coupe in 4 above.

As you can imagine, the coupe offers more protection from the elements than does the touring car. I have no heater in the coupe yet (just this summer I aquired a manifold heater, there is a hole in the firewall- something was there previously) but removing the top floor board and folding back the carpet does let some engine heat into the cabin. After a while it is not too bad inside. You can unfasten your coat but keep on the hat and gloves.
You must be mindful of your exhalations, lest they collect on the glass, frost up and then you must scrape inside the car! Pulling down the quarter window to hand signal lets out whatever heat you might have built up.

As to the touring car; you really must bundle up. A real challenge is warm footwear that will still allow you to deftly manipulate the pedals. I do remove the steel dash plate to allow engine heat to waft onto my boots. The hand warmers and toe warmers used by hunters have proven helpful.

I have been out in one of the cars after 12:00AM on January 1st (several years) to "ring in the New Year with the Old Car". There have been jaunts around town of course and there have been a few longer trips: driving to work and back- 46 miles, a regional Model T snowmobile meet in Townsend, Mass- 78 miles, another regional meet in New London NH- 94 miles, and a National snowmobile meet in Meredith NH- 200 miles.

You do need to be prepared, have a car that is in good shape, and you MUST be properly dressed. The look on the faces of people when you arrive, after they find out where you have driven from is Priceless. It's a hoot. For me, anyway. Your milage may vary. Bill


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William Harper on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 02:45 am:

I tried and failed to attach some pictures to my above post. I'll try again:
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William Harper on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 03:11 am:

I tried and failed to attach some pictures to my above post. I'll try again:
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Deichmann on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 03:59 am:

Check another thread for pictures of winterdriving in the era:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/114468.html?1258358111


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Grant Baker on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 08:55 am:

I've never driven my T. But, I get the A out in the snow every chance I get. It's a blast!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Byrne on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 11:37 am:

You may want to check out this thread from last winter.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/103660.html?1251390116


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry Sutherland on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 11:37 pm:

Bill-can I use the information and pictures that you have here? I'd like to do an article on your winter T journeys-you have a good combination of picture and written material.
thanks
Jerry Sutherland
PS-this is how we typically do a story (I picked a T story)
http://www.mystarcollectorcar.com/2-features/stories/199-my-star-1920-model-t-je d-clampetts-second-car-was-wrestled-away-from-a-hot-rodder.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Augustinovich on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 09:58 am:

coupe

I parked on an incline against a concrete stop and could not back up. Lucky for me two guys came out of their house and pushed me to get out.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls,WI on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 11:50 am:

I don't see any handicapped plates on that T or a blue tag hanging from your rear view mirror. Lucky they got you out before you got a $250 ticket.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 09:39 pm:

IT was about 35-38 and sunny after the fog lifted today. Took Nellybell out for a short trip to a friends house then MicD's for some lunch. Not too bad driving weather :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry Sutherland on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 09:51 pm:

This just blows me away how you guys get winter fun out of your Ts-talk about year round fun with a classic car.
This is something I never see with any other club-and most of their cars are 40-60 years newer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 10:24 pm:

Just drove about 75 miles today! We drove from Alpine to San Diego this morning to join a parade. Then went to lunch at an old diner with the cars that went on the parade. Then went to the beach and looked at an aircraft navigation tower. This thing looks like a bowling pin and puts out a high frequency radio signal by which the aircraft are guided from one location to another even in clouds and fog. Then drove home. It was cloudy today and between 50 and 60 degrees F. We are supposed to get rain tomorrow and Monday. We very seldom see any snow and then it usually melts as soon as it hits the ground.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 11:36 pm:

Took yhe '25 coupe out for a while yesterday and today. It was 28 degrees yesterday, about 40 today. Supposed to get snow shortly, so will have to park it for a while, too many hills here. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim from ModelTengine.com on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 03:24 pm:

Have you driven a Ford lately?
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth M. Stewart on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 04:48 pm:

Nice pictures and that what it all about.<img>


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Rigdon on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 06:34 pm:

Great pictures, all of them, but Tim, your pic of the tracks was just a topper. Here in the desert of S. Arizona every day is a driving day. I do still remember what snow looks like however.

Bill R. '25 Fordor


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim from ModelTengine.com on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 07:41 pm:

That was this afternoon. I had to take the car out and prep if for tomorrow. We will be burying a friend and club member in the morning.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim from ModelTengine.com on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 03:53 pm:

Here's the photo from this morning. 19 degrees out when we left. That's ice on the truck, not fog. Car ran ok until I blocked the radiator off with cardboard, then it ran normally again. The ride was not cold in the sedan. I think we had 15 T's there, three were closed cars, the rest of them were probably very cold. I hope when I go the turnout is as good as it was today. Our friend will be missed.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael W. Herndon on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 06:14 pm:

Winter is here at the Ranch up in the Sierras.. I took the TT for a ride in the storm.. out in the woods... night time with the lights on and just had a grand time. Pretty warm, considering all of the down.. I took no pictures, but what a magical thing to drive one of these out in the snow.. It was like going back in a time machine.. Except for the modern beer...!

Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adam Doleshal on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 12:03 pm:

My winter vehicle is a '25 TT dump truck that is kept outside year round. It reliably starts to about -2 F. It has a manifold heater and probably heats to about 50 inside on a sunny day. When we have a big snow, we put chains on it and go out for a drive. I've driven it thru deep drifts, in and out of ditches, etc... Many places four wheel drive trucks could get stuck. The truck is in suprisingly good shape for being driven in the salt and kept outside for 8-10 years.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Watt on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 03:47 pm:

I use my 27 pickup as a back up or second car year round.
Today I had it out running around and it was -31c or (-23F) with a wind chill of -41 and the truck performed perfectly.
The only problem with winter driving is if the streets arenít scraped down smooth the T follows the ruts and goes where it wants to go and not necessarily where you want it to go. This makes for an unsafe and sometimes a little scary drive.
You also get chilled if you are out and about to long.
I live in Brandon Manitoba Canada where the winter is long and cold


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